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Leonard Ward

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Sara

Sara Report 9 Jun 2010 09:18

Hi, i have posted a similar thread on here several months ago, but i have decided to have another go as i just cannot seem to find this person. I am trying to find out any details about Leonard Ward (birth, death, census records etc..). I have a marriage certificate and the details i have from it are as follows;
Married to Lilian Stevens on 30 Dec 1915 age 22 years, he was a wood cutter and the place of residence at time of marriage was Wokingham Durham. Fathers name Charles Ward who was a collier. The marriage took place in Rendcombe Gloucestershire. He had a son Ronald in 1918 registered at Ashbourne Derby. I just cannot seem to find him on any records, i no longer have access to the 1911 census, but i did search it a while ago.
Any help/details you could find out about him would be great. Thanks.

zoe

zoe Report 9 Jun 2010 09:30

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1207705

Not that there is much on the thread



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CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 9 Jun 2010 09:48

Bearing in mind that Leonard's son was registered in the Ashbourne, Derby registration district - could this be Leonard in 1911??

WARD, Jane Widow Head Widow F 75 1836 Idridgehay VIEW
WARD, Lenard Grandson Single M 17 1894 Farm Servant Cowman Kirk Luton VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21047 Reference:
RG14PN21047 RG78PN1255 RD437 SD2 ED11 SN114

Registration District:
Ashbourne Sub District:
Brassington Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Kirk Ireton

Address:
Flat Yard Kirk Ireton Derby County:
Derbyshire

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 9 Jun 2010 09:57

This Charles Ward may be linked, given that his birthplace is the same as that on the address of the census posted previously.

However, if the age is correct for this Charles then he would have only been 15 when Leonard was born.


WARD, Charles Head Married M 33 1878 Colliery Bankman Kirk Ireton Derbyshire VIEW
WARD, Jane Wife Married
14 years F 34 1877 Eckington Halfway Derbyshire VIEW
WARD, Thomas Henry Son Married M 14 1897 Pony Driver Below Ground Eckington Halfway Derbyshire VIEW
WARD, Gertrude Daughter F 11 1900 School Eckington Halfway Derbyshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21140 Reference:
RG14PN21140 RG78PN1259 RD438 SD4 ED10 SN21

Registration District:
Chesterfield Sub District:
Eckington Enumeration District:
10 Parish:
Eckington

Address:
48 Rotherham Road Halfway Via Sheffield

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 9 Jun 2010 09:59

Looks like the same family in 1901 that NinjaLady found in 1911;

1901 England Census
about Lenard Ward
Name: Lenard Ward
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation: Grandson
Father's Name: William
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirk Ireton, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Kirk Ireton
Ecclesiastical parish: Kirk Ireton Holty Trinity
Town: Kirk Ireton
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ashbourne
Sub-registration district: Brassington
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 82
Household Members: Name Age
James Ward 65
Jana Ward 64
William Ward 28 >>> stated as Single so I don't think he his leonards father!
Lucy Ward 10 >> Grandaughter
Lenard Ward 7




Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 9 Jun 2010 10:01

1881 England Census
about James Ward
Name: James Ward
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirk Ireton, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Kirk Ireton
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address: Main Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Farm Lab

Registration district: Ashborne
Sub-registration district: Brassington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Ward 44
Jane Ward 47
John Ward 15
William Ward 9
Henry Ward 7
Hannah Ward 5


1871 England Census
about James Ward
Name: James Ward
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirk Ireton, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Kirk Ireton
Ecclesiastical parish: Kirk Ireton
Town: Kirk Ireton
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Ashborne
Sub-registration district: Brassington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
James Ward 33
Jane Ward 35
Mary A Ward 10
Thomas Ward 7
John Ward 5
Rachel Ward 1
George Ward 1


There doesn't seem to be a son Charles in the family.


Dee x

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 9 Jun 2010 10:14

That's cool - at least that rules out this Leonard from the 1911 results!!

Back to the searchboard!

Sara

Sara Report 9 Jun 2010 10:16

Thanks everyone, but i still cannot place him together with Charles. Do you think he could have come from overseas?

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 9 Jun 2010 10:18

Hi Sara,

Also consider the fact that he may have been born out of wedlock, if his mother then married he may have taken on the stepfathers surname on census? OR, he may have just made Charles up to save face at the marriage?


Dee x

Susan

Susan Report 9 Jun 2010 10:26

Hi Sara
Do you have any certs at all for his birth ,this is a possible.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Leonard Ward
Name: Leonard Ward
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Rotherham
County: Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 727

Susan

Susan Report 9 Jun 2010 10:41

This date for him is s little out ,I have him bn 1893 if he was 22 in 1915,for marriage.
They don't always tell the truth.
A possible

1901 England Census
about Leonard Ward
Name: Leonard Ward
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charle
Mother's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Handsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michaels
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Handsworth
Charle Ward 41
Louisa Ward 41
Reginald Ward 15
Leonard Ward 13
Edgar Ward 3
Laura Smith 16


Susan

Susan Report 9 Jun 2010 10:48

This census does not have all the family on it so I will add it myself going by the original image.

1901 England Census
about Leonard G Ward
Name: Leonard G Ward
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation: Son Of Head (Head)
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 77
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Leonard G Ward 9
Florence E Ward 4
I have added the following.
Charles Ward 54 bn Christchurch Hants,Political agent. <<<Father
Harriett Ward 44 bn Liverpool <<<Mother
Sarah Gibson 47 Bn Liverpool Ret Schoolteacher. Sister in Law
Harold G Ward 11 bn Liverpool

Mary

Mary Report 9 Jun 2010 11:14

Tree on Ancestry has the one born Sept 1893 Rotherham,his parents were Solomon Ward and Marion Youle.



I found a Charles E Ward born Darfield Bridge Yorkshire (Barnsley area)
1901 he is in Wombwell a Coal Hewer.
Mary E 1876 Masboro Yorks
Fred 1896 Wombwell
Albert 1898 Wombwell

Wonder if they had Leonard who maybe was away on the night.
He is the only Charles ward I have found who was in the mining industry.

Maryb

Sara as other members of a ward family in Kirk Ireton around the 1830's so maybe the connection lies there .
Ancestry down again so i can't go delving.I'm getting bored.

Mary

Mary Report 9 Jun 2010 13:34

Sara has these i think John 1831
Hannah 1834
Sarah 1837
Ann 1841 parents were Thomas 1801 and Ann 1801 all born in Kirk Ireton.
There was a John Ward @ 1831 married to Ann.
1871 District 9 17 Kirk ireton
John 1831
Ann 1835
William 1861
George 1863
Ralph 1865
Mary H1867
Samuel 1869
CHARLES 1870.Is this Leonard's dad????????
Annie 1873 on 1881 census with her married mum.

Can't find Charles after 1871 or his dad John on 1881.


1891 Ann Ward a widow with son George 1863.

Maryb

Sara

Sara Report 9 Jun 2010 14:18

Thanks everyone for all your time and effort, i have just got in from work and so will be going through all your ideas to see if anything matches.