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Sara
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9 Jun 2010 09:18 |
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Hi, i have posted a similar thread on here several months ago, but i have decided to have another go as i just cannot seem to find this person. I am trying to find out any details about Leonard Ward (birth, death, census records etc..). I have a marriage certificate and the details i have from it are as follows; Married to Lilian Stevens on 30 Dec 1915 age 22 years, he was a wood cutter and the place of residence at time of marriage was Wokingham Durham. Fathers name Charles Ward who was a collier. The marriage took place in Rendcombe Gloucestershire. He had a son Ronald in 1918 registered at Ashbourne Derby. I just cannot seem to find him on any records, i no longer have access to the 1911 census, but i did search it a while ago. Any help/details you could find out about him would be great. Thanks.
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zoe
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9 Jun 2010 09:30 |
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http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1207705
Not that there is much on the thread
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CherryBlossom
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9 Jun 2010 09:48 |
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Bearing in mind that Leonard's son was registered in the Ashbourne, Derby registration district - could this be Leonard in 1911??
WARD, Jane Widow Head Widow F 75 1836 Idridgehay VIEW WARD, Lenard Grandson Single M 17 1894 Farm Servant Cowman Kirk Luton VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 21047 Reference: RG14PN21047 RG78PN1255 RD437 SD2 ED11 SN114 Registration District: Ashbourne Sub District: Brassington Enumeration District: 11 Parish: Kirk Ireton Address: Flat Yard Kirk Ireton Derby County: Derbyshire
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CherryBlossom
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9 Jun 2010 09:57 |
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This Charles Ward may be linked, given that his birthplace is the same as that on the address of the census posted previously.
However, if the age is correct for this Charles then he would have only been 15 when Leonard was born.
WARD, Charles Head Married M 33 1878 Colliery Bankman Kirk Ireton Derbyshire VIEW WARD, Jane Wife Married 14 years F 34 1877 Eckington Halfway Derbyshire VIEW WARD, Thomas Henry Son Married M 14 1897 Pony Driver Below Ground Eckington Halfway Derbyshire VIEW WARD, Gertrude Daughter F 11 1900 School Eckington Halfway Derbyshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 21140 Reference: RG14PN21140 RG78PN1259 RD438 SD4 ED10 SN21 Registration District: Chesterfield Sub District: Eckington Enumeration District: 10 Parish: Eckington Address: 48 Rotherham Road Halfway Via Sheffield
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BatMansDaughter
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9 Jun 2010 09:59 |
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Looks like the same family in 1901 that NinjaLady found in 1911;
1901 England Census about Lenard Ward Name: Lenard Ward Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1894 Relation: Grandson Father's Name: William Gender: Male Where born: Kirk Ireton, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Kirk Ireton Ecclesiastical parish: Kirk Ireton Holty Trinity Town: Kirk Ireton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Ashbourne Sub-registration district: Brassington ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 82 Household Members: Name Age James Ward 65 Jana Ward 64 William Ward 28 >>> stated as Single so I don't think he his leonards father! Lucy Ward 10 >> Grandaughter Lenard Ward 7
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BatMansDaughter
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9 Jun 2010 10:01 |
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1881 England Census about James Ward Name: James Ward Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Kirk Ireton, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Kirk Ireton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address: Main Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Farm Lab Registration district: Ashborne Sub-registration district: Brassington ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Ward 44 Jane Ward 47 John Ward 15 William Ward 9 Henry Ward 7 Hannah Ward 5 1871 England Census about James Ward Name: James Ward Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Kirk Ireton, Derbyshire, England Civil parish: Kirk Ireton Ecclesiastical parish: Kirk Ireton Town: Kirk Ireton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Ashborne Sub-registration district: Brassington ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 17 Household Members: Name Age James Ward 33 Jane Ward 35 Mary A Ward 10 Thomas Ward 7 John Ward 5 Rachel Ward 1 George Ward 1 There doesn't seem to be a son Charles in the family.
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CherryBlossom
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9 Jun 2010 10:14 |
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That's cool - at least that rules out this Leonard from the 1911 results!!
Back to the searchboard!
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Sara
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9 Jun 2010 10:16 |
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Thanks everyone, but i still cannot place him together with Charles. Do you think he could have come from overseas?
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BatMansDaughter
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9 Jun 2010 10:18 |
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Hi Sara,
Also consider the fact that he may have been born out of wedlock, if his mother then married he may have taken on the stepfathers surname on census? OR, he may have just made Charles up to save face at the marriage?
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Susan
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9 Jun 2010 10:26 |
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Hi Sara Do you have any certs at all for his birth ,this is a possible.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Leonard Ward Name: Leonard Ward Year of Registration: 1893 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Rotherham County: Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 727
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Susan
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9 Jun 2010 10:41 |
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This date for him is s little out ,I have him bn 1893 if he was 22 in 1915,for marriage. They don't always tell the truth. A possible
1901 England Census about Leonard Ward Name: Leonard Ward Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Relation: Son Father's Name: Charle Mother's Name: Louisa Gender: Male Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Handsworth Ecclesiastical parish: St Michaels County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: Handsworth Charle Ward 41 Louisa Ward 41 Reginald Ward 15 Leonard Ward 13 Edgar Ward 3 Laura Smith 16
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Susan
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9 Jun 2010 10:48 |
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This census does not have all the family on it so I will add it myself going by the original image.
1901 England Census about Leonard G Ward Name: Leonard G Ward Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1892 Relation: Son Of Head (Head) Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Toxteth Park Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Toxteth Park Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 77 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Leonard G Ward 9 Florence E Ward 4 I have added the following. Charles Ward 54 bn Christchurch Hants,Political agent. <<<Father Harriett Ward 44 bn Liverpool <<<Mother Sarah Gibson 47 Bn Liverpool Ret Schoolteacher. Sister in Law Harold G Ward 11 bn Liverpool
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Mary
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9 Jun 2010 11:14 |
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Tree on Ancestry has the one born Sept 1893 Rotherham,his parents were Solomon Ward and Marion Youle.
I found a Charles E Ward born Darfield Bridge Yorkshire (Barnsley area) 1901 he is in Wombwell a Coal Hewer. Mary E 1876 Masboro Yorks Fred 1896 Wombwell Albert 1898 Wombwell
Wonder if they had Leonard who maybe was away on the night. He is the only Charles ward I have found who was in the mining industry.
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Sara as other members of a ward family in Kirk Ireton around the 1830's so maybe the connection lies there . Ancestry down again so i can't go delving.I'm getting bored.
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Mary
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9 Jun 2010 13:34 |
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Sara has these i think John 1831 Hannah 1834 Sarah 1837 Ann 1841 parents were Thomas 1801 and Ann 1801 all born in Kirk Ireton. There was a John Ward @ 1831 married to Ann. 1871 District 9 17 Kirk ireton John 1831 Ann 1835 William 1861 George 1863 Ralph 1865 Mary H1867 Samuel 1869 CHARLES 1870.Is this Leonard's dad???????? Annie 1873 on 1881 census with her married mum.
Can't find Charles after 1871 or his dad John on 1881.
1891 Ann Ward a widow with son George 1863.
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Sara
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9 Jun 2010 14:18 |
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Thanks everyone for all your time and effort, i have just got in from work and so will be going through all your ideas to see if anything matches.
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