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Ok I'm really stuck! I'm desperate to find any info on John Watson b.1853 in Sunderland. Occupation was works engineer. He married Elizabeth Browning b.1862. Got the marriage cert for John & Elizabeth. Marriage on 20/03/1883 in Sunderland. John 28yrs, Elizabeth 22 yrs. John's profession recorded as Plate Layer, both living at 45 South Johnson Street, Bishop Wearmouth. John's father was James Watson but deceased at time of marriage and also a Plate Layer. Elizabeths father was Michael/Richard Browning(handwriting unclear), Master Mariner deceased at time of marriage. With regards to all this info I have been hunting and STILL can't find anything! I would really love to find John and Elizabeth on the census with their family but would also like to find John with his parents. If anyone has any tips or info to help this would be greatly appreciated as i am currently pulling my hair out!
Many Thanks,
Jenny

Something wrong with the dates there?

How do you know he was born in Sunderland?

Any witnesses?

Suzanne

Is this John and Elizabeth in 1891 for ref

Name: John Watson
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Bishop Wearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michaels
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub registration district: North Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 37
Elizabeth Watson 29
Elizabeth Watson 6
Jane Watson 5
Ann Watson 1

If the 1891 is correct it is interesting that a neighbour was William Watson 50 and family born Sunderland - A brother possibly

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1883 (>99%)
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BROWNING Elizabeth Sunderland 10a 850
COWEY Mary Jane Sunderland 10a 850
Salkeld Thomas Sunderland 10a 850
WATSON John Sunderland 10a 850

Ok, thanx guys. I know he was born in Sunderland from my family. On the marriage cert he is just down as John. Suzi, why do you think the dates are wrong? Witnesses are Mark Chapman and Ann Carr. Those census returns look poisitve as i have got noted down the posssibility of children named Annie, Elizabeth and Florence (think this is all my nan could remember). A william Watson doesnt ring a bell but could def be a possibility as i havent found anything!!

I wonder if this could be Elizabeth Browning in 1871 - Her mother is listed as a married but her husabnd is away - possibly a mariner

Name: Elizabeth Browning
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Bpwth, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Bishop Wearmouth Panns
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub registration district: North Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Browning 42 b Staffordshire?? writing poor
William Browning 16
Ann Browning 12
Elizabeth Browning 10

Because you have him born 1853 and married 1862

Suzanne

I think Jennifer lists his wife as born in 1862 - they married in 1883

Same family as in 1871 - Richard is a mariner

1861

Name: Richard Browning
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Bishopwearmouth Panns
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: 18 Panns

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub registration district: North Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Browning 41 Mariner
Ann Browning 32
Jane Browning 12
William Browning 6
Ann Browning 2
Elizabeth Browning 5 Mo

Ooops! Must learn to read more slowly!!

Suzanne

Don't worry I do it all the time!

Yeah that definitely looks like Elizabeths family, especially as Richard is away as on Elizabeth's cert it is says he was Master Mariner. I'm really not sure on a middle name for John, it doesnt say on the cert but of course its a possibility. John Thomas would be my automatic guess as Thomas crops up alot in int Watson line further down, but again can't be certain.

I think this could be John and Elizabeth in 1901 but John is listed as being born in Carlisle which could be the reason he doesn't appear in censuses pre 1891

1901

Name: John Watson
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Sunderland
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub registration district: Sunderland
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 48
Elizabeth Watson 39
John Watson 7
Annie Watson 11
Florrie Watson 3
Edward Watson 1 month