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Katrina

Katrina Report 1 Mar 2009 15:11

Desperately trying to find info on a Frederick Williams c1861 occupation Painter and Paper Hanger [journeyman] son of Charles Williams occupation Commercial Traveller deceased by Sep 1893. Frederick married Sarah Johnson St Giles Parish Church Wrexham 4 Sep 1893, two children Florence May Williams 1894, Charles Edward 1895. Family lived Brymbo/Southsea/Bersham. Frederick seems to have died before Aug 1897 as Sarah Johnson married William Price and was a widow. I can find no trace of Frederick or Charles Williams on any census’s, does this tie into anyone’s research.

sablon

sablon Report 1 Mar 2009 16:12

FOR REF


Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%)
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Johnson Sarah Wrexham 11b 426

Williams Fredrick Wrexham 11b 426



The district Wrexham spans the boundaries of the counties of Cheshire, Denbighshire and Flintshire;

sablon

sablon Report 1 Mar 2009 16:20

I can't find a death for Frederick and if he died his wife would of married under Williams,not Johnson

Heather

Heather Report 1 Mar 2009 16:22

If you want to check everyones trees, just use the search trees tab at the top of the page.

sablon

sablon Report 1 Mar 2009 16:25

found this death


Deaths Jun 1924 (99%)
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Williams Frederick E 58 Wrexham 11b 319


5 year span on birth age but death age can be unreliable

sablon

sablon Report 1 Mar 2009 16:28


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Births Dec 1862 (>99%)
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WILLIAMS Frederick Wrexham 11b 315

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Births Mar 1866 (>99%)
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Williams Frederick Wrexham 11b 342



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Katrina

Katrina Report 2 Mar 2009 10:24

To Sablon
I have both marriage cert’s for Sarah Johnson, on both she married with her maiden name, only difference with the second was “widow”. I have cert’s for her two children from Frederick Williams, and both state “painter decorator” fist says journeyman, second says master (so he must have taken on an apprentice) I have spent hours in Ruthin records office with nothing to show. As for the later deaths, his eldest daughter (OH great grandmother) married in 1912 and Fredericks down as deceased.
I have searched trees on this site and others, but shall remain hopeful someone can connect either Frederick or Charles to their tree.
Thanks for your replys