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Trying to find information on possible crew list for we believe 2 people from the census.....but just might be the same person using a middle name

Anyway the person or people that i am looking for is
George Williams believed to be born around 1887 in the west indies..and was a Ships stoker in the Merchant services. and was resident in cardiff in the early 1900's, and also shows up on a birth cert of his child around 1913 and a marriage cert of his child from 1932.....
The next person that i am looking for shows up on the 1911 census as a richard williams also born in the west indies around 1887 he also is listed as a seaman on that census.
I was hoping that someone out there might have access to crew list records.....and be able to have a look for these 2 men or one in the same man, ranging around the years of 1890 to about 1940 to see if they can in and out of the uk a lot and also if there is any other info listed with there crew logs.

Being the name williams and also coming from the west indies its a nightmare to find him lol

Many thanks for anyone out there that can help us.....and thank you for the time that it may take you.......grateful for all help.

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George Williams

United States Census, 1910
birth: 1886 — West Indies
residence: Brooklyn Ward 19, Kings, New York

record title: United States Census, 1910
name: George Williams
birthplace: West Indies
relationship to head of household: Brother
residence: Brooklyn Ward 19, Kings, New York
marital status: Single
race : White
gender: Male
father's birthplace: West Indies
mother's birthplace: West Indies
family number: 217
page number: 9

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George Williams

United States Census, 1910
birth: 1886 — West Indies
residence: Manhattan Ward 20, New York, New York

record title: United States Census, 1910
name: George Williams
birthplace: West Indies
residence: Manhattan Ward 20, New York, New York
marital status: Single
race : Black
gender: Male
immigration year: 1900
father's birthplace: West Indies
mother's birthplace: West Indies
family number: 541
page number: 15

George Williams

United States Census, 1920
birth: 1886 — St Kitts British West Indies
residence: , New York, New York
spouse: Nora Williams

record title: United States Census, 1920
name: George Williams
residence: , New York, New York
estimated birth year: 1886
age: 34
birthplace: St Kitts British West Indies
relationship to head of household: Self
gender: Male
race: Black
marital status: Married
father's birthplace: St Kitts British West Indies
mother's birthplace: St Kitts British West Indies
digital folder number: 4314016
sheet number: 13

do you know if they were white or black?

Many thanks for your time.....ann.....do you think these ones that you have found would be linked to the uk at all.....?

there where black....as far as i know....as Georges daughter had a tan to her.....but her mother was def white....a welsh lady she was...

Have you managed to find them at all listed on any uk ships....

once again many thanks for your time

wouldn't know how to go about finding ship connection - sorry - unless of course you have a name of a ship - I am in Cardiff by the way, but Williams is a very common name indeed - my paternal line is Williams!!!

Nichola

50 years worth of crew lists is an awful lot and anyway, you'd need to know the names of the ships!