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I am not sure if I have understood this properly, so please bear with me.

I have the impression that those with access to Ancestry can see copies of marriage certificates, and get information from them.

If this is correct, can some kind person please assist me?

Jessie Maud Dolby married James Williams on 28th February 1916 at Islington Registry Office.

Can someone please confirm James' parents are Alfred and Sylvia please. If not, are the parents shown, and I can try and track them down on the 1901 Census.

Thank you.

Hi

Its not a church wedding so it will not be on the London marriages Im affraid

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Im guessing this is James?


1901 England Census
about James Williams
Name: James Williams
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Son
Father's name: Alfred Williams
Mother's name: Sylivia Williams
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, London, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Barnsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 380
Piece: 182
Folio: 145
Page Number: 68
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Williams 56
Sylivia Williams 45
Frank Williams 12
James Williams 9

I did not know there was a stipulation about Church weddings.

Thank you very much for your time.

Best wishes

edit. Ooops we crossed. I am PRESUMING this is the same man, I have his name, and approximate date of birth. But as yet this is all guesswork.

There are no baptisms for either couple...so its the birth cert for her parents


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Jessie Maud Dolby
Name: Jessie Maud Dolby
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 311 (click to see others on page)

Yes that is correct, I have all the information on Jessie and her parentage. I have no information on James Williams. I am assuming he came from Islington too, and working on that premise.

I could be totally barking up the wrong tree.
lol

Where did you learn the exact date of the marriage?

To clarify.....no-one can view marriage certs on line - the info Ancestry has is taken from the Parish registers - hence only Church weddings being transcribed for the period in London
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From freebmd..........you probably have seen this

Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%)
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Dolby Jessie M William Islington 1b 703
Williams James Dolby Islington 1b 703

For info
1881 census
Alfred Williams aged 36 Head - general labourer
Sylvia Williams wife aged 25 in brackets Bailey
Alfred L Williams aged 4 son born 1877 Islington
Emily Williams no year of birth or age daughter
All born Islington
Mary Ann Bailey born 1824 Melksham Wiltshire Mother in Law widow
Living 5, Charles Street Islington.

If this the correct family it appears her maiden name was Bailey

More info
A Sylvia Bailey married Alfred Pearson Williams 21/09/1873 St John the Evangalist Upper Holloway Islington.
Grooms father Richard John Williams
Brides father William Bailey.

1861 for the Bailey family
William Head born 1830 Molton Chapel Lincs
Mary Ann Baily wife born 1825 Wiltshire
William son born 1850
Robert son born 1853
Sylvia born 1855 daughter
Seth born 1857 son.
Hope all this helps

? Jesse's death index
: Jessie Maud Williams
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1894
Death Registration Month/Year: 1969
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 1534dex

Could this be James in census 1911?

Person: WILLIAMS, James
Institution: A And B Companies 3rd Bn Middlesex Regiment, A AND B COMPANIES 3RD BATTALION MIDDLESEX REGIMENT, LEBONG, INDIA
Military details: Private Infantry

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WILLIAMS, James Single ? 20 1891 Nil Islington Middx

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RG number:RG14 Piece:34988 Reference:RG14PN34988 RD641 SD13 ED15 SN9999
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Address:
Lebong India County:
Overseas military

On the other hand, this one more likely...?

WILLIAMS, Alfred Head Married M 66 1845 Music Copyist Bloomsbury London
WILLIAMS, Sylvia Wife Married 37 years F 55 1856 Islington London
WILLIAMS, Frank Son Married M 22 1889 Motor Body Maker Islington London
WILLIAMS, Irene Daughter Married F 21 1890 Islington London
WILLIAMS, Frank Grandson M 0 (3 MONTH) 1911 Islington London
>>>WILLIAMS, James Son Single M 19 1892 Dental Instrument Making Islington London
DONALDSON, Helen Cousin Single F 38 1873 Dressmaker Whaplode Lincolnshire
HARRIS, Alfred Adopted Son Single M 19 1892 Motor Body Maker Islington London

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RG number:RG14 Piece:783 Reference:RG14PN783 RG78PN27 RD10 SD1 ED8 SN212

Registration District:Islington Sub District:Tufnell Enumeration District:8 Parish:Islington

Address:
10 Brookside Road Holloway County:
London

Thank you for your replies. I was called away and had to go out for an hour or so. Aplogies.

I have the exact date of the marriage as this is part of my immediate family. Not from the freebmd.

Thank you Kucinta, this ties in nicely with a message I have had from another member on this family. Good, good, we take another step forward. lol

Thank you Flick for the clarification, as you will see from my original posting, I was unsure as to whether marriage lines could be viewed.

Thank you to all you kind people for your time, and for suggesting and posting census returns.

Most grateful. Thanks again.

best wishes