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Hello all
Mary Cope was born on the 23rd of December 1837 in Tattenhall Cheshire.
She was Illegitimate and took her mothers name.
Her mother was Anne Cope, and on the birth cert it states that the informant was Thomas James Proudlove, Surgeon of Tattenhall who was also the Registrar.
Can anybody find Mary Cope on the 1841 and 51 census as i cant seem to.
Danny
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There is this marriage in 1839 in Great Boughton registration district which covers Tattenhall:-
Name: Mary Cope
Year of Registration: 1839
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Great Boughton
County: Cheshire, Flintshire
Volume: 19
Page: 85
SORRY - got mixed up with this. It would be a marriage for Anne and not Mary that would be needed.
Kath. x
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I would think that could be a rellie but my Mary was born in 1837.
Danny
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Could this be a marriage for Anne Cope:-
Name: Anne Cope
Year of Registration: 1837
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Great Boughton
County: Cheshire, Flintshire
Volume: 19
Page: 35
I realise that this would be before the birth of Mary but perhaps whoever Anne married was not the father and so didn't want the child to have his name.
Just a thought really.
Kath. x
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That is a possible, ill take note of that just in case.
Danny
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Hi Danny :-)
To add to the mix is the following.
The following is what I found looking at other ‘Ancestry’ sites & forums – the information may prove to be spot on I cannot truly say and have no idea of its true authenticity - I am writing this hoping it may be of help. So -> I ‘STRONGLY’ suggest you follow up this information 'before' taking it as 'fact' with your own further research.
Firstly I have been unable to locate your Mary Cope within the 1841 & 1851 census takings.
It looks like Mary’s mother Ann Cope married to a Thomas Brooks [on IGI Familysearch it has there marriage was in 1831 – I think this may be a mistake – more than likely to be about1837]. Further looking at IGI daughter to Thomas Brooks & Ann Cope is Mary Brooks b:23rd December 1838 [Birth date correct – Year slightly out - so cannot be discounted] – It is a possibility that for appearance sake Mary Cope may have also gone by the surname of Brooks...to cover for her illegitimacy after her mother Ann married. I have been unable to place her with Brooks as surname.
Hope the above pans out to be correct :-)
Cheers ~ Steve.
Note: Danny if you have access to 'Ancestry.com' I highly recommend you look at the 'Public Tree' section and cross reference Mary Cope b:1837 Cheshire.
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Update ->
This looks more than likely going along with my thoughts in regards to Mary as Brooks as Surname instead of Cope -> 1841 Census details.
1841 England Census
about Mary Brookes
Name: Mary Brookes
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: Female
Where born: Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Bunbury
Hundred: Broxton (Higher Division)
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
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Registration district: Nantwich
Sub registration district: Bunbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Brookes 30
Mary Brookes 3
Sarah Brookes 1
Thomas Brookes 25
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1851 Census - Brookes family - Mary Cope/Brookes b:1837 absent from home ->
1851 England Census
about Ann Brookes
Name: Ann Brookes
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Tattenhall, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Burwardsley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Nantwich
Sub registration district: Bunbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Household Members:
Name Age
John Arthan 36
Ann Brookes 41
David Brookes 6
Jane Brookes 3 Mo
Joseph Brookes 8
Sarah Brookes 10
Thomas Brookes 37
Thomas Brookes 4
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1851 Census and the closest I could find for Mary Brook/es b:1837 [as servant] ->
1851 England Census
about Mary Brook
Name: Mary Brook
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Burwardsley, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Tattenhall
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub registration district: Tattenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 31b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Brook 14
Samuel Jackson 73
Martha Shone 40
Mary Shone 8 Mo
William Shone 25
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