Genealogy Chat

Sorry got carried away - should have put WW pension records.
Evie when you resurrect will you come back here first please my head is too full of Hagley records!

For those that dont have a clue about pension records


British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Tracey Quantick
Name: Tracey Quantick
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Age at enlistment: 18
Birth Parish: Fulham
Birth County: Middlesex
Document Year: 1904
Regimental Number: 7296
Number of images: 11


Going to miss that sweet snarl Evie.

Like a hole in the head.

Julie -- I don't have a clue what pension records are -- but yay! Hagley!!



Oh, well then Viv, *pension* records, fine. ;)

I see it down there vvv

There ya go, Jock! The oldies are easier, of course. Even when they're not easy. ;) Very glad to see a newbie perusing the boards! (Even if I have to keep disclaiming credit for one of those old-time team efforts -- it's just that I chewed Jock out a while back for multiple threads yada yada ;) ...)

What a wonderful search story, beats any who dunnit,
Regards to evie now I know what I have to look forward too when I get going
Job well done
Albert
Jockw

Yes!!
Am accessing those pension records bit by bit...........Tracey married whilst in service to Lizzie Lane....witnesses Alice and Thomas Hagley!

Wow what a journey! Evie I'm with you. There are only two marriages for Quantick in Wandsworth:

Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
Quantick Alice May Wandsworth 1d 789

Marriages Sep 1906 (>99%)
QUANTICK Tracey Wandsworth 1d 1424

Brother and sister from the census'?

So she maried Adams or Hagley as mentioned earlier -but then became Wood?

Janet there are pension records for Tracey Quantick on Ancestry which may glean information re family?

(my PC playing up so having difficulty looking at the images)

As for Lily - yes she must be implicated! I knew nothing about registration until I started researching my family. Why didn't they just change the name and leave all the other details? *Someone* knew that the detail could be searched on and the truth be found out.......?

Julie :)

I had to crash my Firefox and I think this got lost - I was wondering whether Lily Rooke might have come into it as the registrar who heard about John Wood's difficult circumstances when he registered Alice's death, and suggested her Rooke relations as being a couple who wanted a child ...

There's no Alice Quan* born 1886-1892 in the 1911 census who matches.

I'm thinking Quantick was her birth surname and she was married by 1911.

So she possibly was this one:

Marriages Mar 1906
Adams James Wandsworth 1d 789
Hagley Thomas Edmund Wandsworth 1d 789
> Quantick Alice May Wandsworth 1d 789
Saunders Florence Wandsworth 1d 789

But there are no Adams-Quantick or Hagley-Quantick births, and I can't spot that Alice in the 1911 as either.

But she definitely matches the birth noted earlier:

Births Mar 1889
Quantice Alice Wandsworth 1d 771

making her this one in Battersea in 1901:

William J Quantick 33
Alice Quantick 32 - Alice Tracey
Tracey Quantick 14
Alice M Quantick 12 - born Putney
William J Quantick 4
Edwin J Quantick 1
Frederick C Quantick 1

The household is in Wandsworth in 1911, but she's not with it.

All I have to say is -- that was Julie who spotted that Alice Wood death! I merely applauded her. ;)

It does look like I thought, though -- an informal 'adoption', with an altered birth cert to go with.

As Angela says - was there a family connection? And I do agree it helps to hear similar stories -- confirmation that such things did indeed happen.

I've found this thread very interesting - if a bit late !
I would agree this seems to now be solved. Apart from confirming the family connection or not.
My Mum was born illegitimate in 1933. Her birth was registered under her mothers married name, but she was generally known by her fathers name.
When, at the age of 6 yrs my mum's mum died, her father gave her away to a couple he knew from his local pub. This couple (my "grandparents") had two sons and had apparently lost a little girl.
It sometimes helps I think, to hear other people's stories.
Good Luck!

Thank you Evie. I wrote to Rob and asked him for Dolly's birth certificate and also Alices death if it was relevant. I received them both today.

Dolly was born 25th October 1918 at 76 Lower Richmond Road. Her father John Henry registered the birth. 7 days later he registered the death of his "wife" Alice. She died from Influenza, childbirth and bronchial pneumonia.

I can only assume that he was unable to care for Dolly so passed her to the Rookes to bring up as their own.

Pat said her mum (Dolly/Doreen) idolised her "mother" and protected her when her "father" turned violent so it would have been unthinkable for her to tell her daughter that she was adopted.

I suppose we've been brought up in different times when it would be unthinkable to not telll an adopted child about their past but in this case?
Personally I'm glad the secret remained for 90 years and Doreen didn't find out.

Theres still some digging to be done to find the Rooke/ Wood/ Quantick link if there is a family link but on the balance of probabilities, I think the above is possibly the closest I'll get to the truth.

Thanks for your help on this one.

Thanks for spotting that one Evie. I've had to put the detective work on hold for the moment 'cos I've got a 2000 word essay to submit by next tuesday.

Hopefully I will be back on the trail next week.

Aha aha aha!

Or - if she was just calling herself Alice Wood. Quite possible, cohabitation w/o marriage and all.

*If* Alice Quantick became Alice Wood maybe she died following Dolly's birth?

Deaths Dec 1918 (>99%)
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Wood Alice 29 Wandsworth 1d 1548

Perhaps Holly moved to Suffolk and stayed with Mary Christmas the neighbour of my gggrandparents.

And of course, a brother Bolly.

I keep wondering the same!

Do you think she had a sister, Holly :-)

OOh, you're clever.:)

Why, if people *know* where their person was born, don't they put it in their tree?

I'm forever asking "hot matches" whether their so-and-so is my so-and-so, purely because they give no indication of where theirs is born, and I don't want to let a possible match slip through my fingers ... and getting back curt answers saying no, not my so-and-so, mine was born in such-and-such place. Well, how was I to know??

Two Dolly Woods born in 1919. Who'd 'a thunk it?

Forgot to say I've had a reply from Tracy who has a Dolly Wood born 1919 in her tree. She isn't related, her one was born in the Antipodes.




(Notice how I covered up the fact I couldn't remember if she's in NZ or Aus and no one will notice!)