Genealogy Chat

Well done Carol for cracking it,and having her diagnosis confirmed by SP
viv

Hi All,
thought i would share the info SP sent me this morning.
Seems we didn't to badly
I think we should all give ourselves a good pat on the back,as this one was hard
Sp reckon that they won't rescan as the image is readable! when enlarged.i don't agree
Any way this is the info they sent

Ruth Anderson domestic servant ( single) age 34, died 1868 December
17th ,7 h 20 m PM , at 46 Balmellie Street, Turriff.
Father Peter Anderson , Farm labourer ( deceased ) , Mother Isabella
Anderson ms Russel.
Cause of death, Scrofulous Disease of the Sacrum Several Years. As
certified by Wm Mortimer MD
INformant William Anderson Brother ( not present)
Reg 1868 December 18th at Turriff William Mgraw/Morgan,Megram? (
sorry just not sure!) Registrar.

I wonder why they put Single as opposed to spinster,i never have found a marriage for her to James Pirie,it will remain a mystery i suppose

Thanks again for all your help
Blue

Hi

If you are in Scotland you can pop into any register office with the gro ref and explain that you need help reading it and they will have a look for you. The copy you see when you sign into Scotlands People unfortunately is the exact same as what they have on file as it is an actual photo of the original entry back in 1868 bad writing and all.

Jackie

I agree Carol,
she was working as a domestic servant in 1861,and had two children one in 1855 and one in 1856,so she must have contracted the infection during the 60's ,also iv just found her on the igi and it gives year of birth as 1832 so in 1868, would make her 36 i think
Still very young though!
thanks again carol
Blue

Blue,
under "scrofulous disease of the sacrum "it says she had had it for "several years", she was young to have an arthritic condition ( Iknow youngsters do get arthritis), so from reading a few articles, and given how common Tb was at the time, I think it was definately the Tb one, poor thing.
The blokey who wrote the record had dreadful writing !!!
carol

Thanks Every one for helping today,
my goodness since 9'ish this morning!
Special thanks to Carol for deciphering the blooming thing
and Viv for getting the address,i checked my census records and found them in the same street but different number
so thanks Fiona for suggesting the SP route which i have done so will be able to confirm the findings,if they get back to me.

x x x
Blue

Hiya,
think I've cracked it
I'm sure it's

"scrofulous disease of the sacrum"

"Aching in elbows and knees, in SACRUM. Chronic rheumatism, with rigid muscles and tendons. "

can also refer to

"Scrofula (scrophula or struma) is any of a variety of skin diseases; in particular, a form of tuberculosis, affecting the lymph nodes of the neck. It is often informally or historically known as the King's Evil, referring to the method of treatment many sufferers used, in some cases in England up to the reign of King Charles II. In adults it is caused by Mycobacterium tuberculosis and in children by nontuberculous mycobacteria. The word comes from the Latin scrofula, meaning brood sow."

I think it was probably the latter in this case and from what I have read very painful and could be hereditary. Your lady was only 24 when she died so I wonder if she contracted it in childhood or teenage years?
Carol

Hi Fiona,
I'v just sent them an e-mail
I'll see what happens

Blue

Thanks Fiona,
i have the registry copy from scotlands people,but not the actual cert,i wonder if they would give me the cause of death if i asked?
I'll give it a bash

Blue

Thanks Viv,
you managed to get more than me though!
That's a good idea about the dr

Blue

That one is HARD

41a balmella/u street

from ???lous disease

after lac??urn

I personally would take it to a doctor to look,thats what I did when I couldnt read one before.
sorry
viv

Thanks Viv

Blue

Have pmd you
viv

i have got this far
1868 Turriff Aberdeen
Ruth Anderson
Domestic servant
spinster
17 december
???? street Turriff
female
age 34
father Peter Anderson farm Laborer (deceased)
Mother Isabel Russell
???? disease
??????????
several years
Informant William Anderson (brother) not present

Hi
I have a copy of a Scottish death and i can't make out the cause of death
Could some one please have a look for me if they have the time
I will be happy to forward the copy
many thanks
Blue