Genealogy Chat

:-D :-D Mavis
I have little more than what you have already posted--see what you think
Thomas Lee,a razor grinder married Lydia Baker-they had a son called
Deogures (Dangerous) Lee,a travelling grinder born Iwade ,Kent 1846, ---married ,Caroline born Chorlton-they had a son called
Jeremiah (Jem) born Milton 1856,who later in life was a travelling grinder,he married Harriet Smith born Canterbury and together they had 2 daughters
Louisa and Caroline both born Sheerness
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Louisa daughter of Jem and Harriet was baptised at St Peter and St Paul,Newnham,Kent20/12/1878-archive refU3/251/Canterbury baptisms
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Frederick Rumsey born 25/5/1902,@21 Ethelbert Rd,Folkestone baptised @Folkestone 29/7/ 1902-fathers occupation-fish hawker-GS1786457

Daphne
Suggest that you contact the Suffolk fam his soc they will be able to tell you how to go about getting the birth cert but it may involve a trip to Lowestoft to look at the parish records and even then it is only a probability that the birth date may have been recorded
Has for John and Elizabeth they were married again Suffolk fam hist should be able to help you further
Liz
www.suffolkfhs.org.uk

Thank you very much how do I get a birth certificate with no vol no and to find a marriage for John &Elizabeth
RegardsRegards
Daphne

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message for Daphne---with regards to her wanting info from the archive on Charles Butler(TRAVELLING SHOWMAN)
I HAVE SENT YOU A PRIVATE MESSAGE
Liz :-D :-D

Hello Mavis
Good to hear from you ,I have found some information for you in the archive and am just checking it before I post it
Liz :-D :-D :-D

Hi Elizabeth , I am interested in the Lee family of Kent

I have a Louisa Lee or Smith born about 1878 Kent

1911 Census she is with W J Rumsey {William James Rumsey 1879] as
L Rumsey born Chatham and son F Rumsey [Frederick] born 1902 Folkstone.

Frederick's birth cert has her maiden name as Smith she also gave birth to
twins James and William Rumsey maiden name Smith in Dec 1899 Sand Pit,
Boughton, Faversham -- they where baptised in Buckland ,Dover.

William James Rumsey and Louisa Lee did marry in 1932 both aged 55y
as bachelor and spinster. father of Louisa Lee - James Lee. dealer
why would she use the maiden name of Smith and marry as Lee ??

I have the death cert of James Lee 82y 4th December 1936 Battle Sx. his address
is the same as William and Louisa Rumsey.

Could this be James Lee ??

on the 1881 census Iwade Kent
Jem Lee 25y Travelling grinder Milton
Harriet Lee 21y --------- Canterbury
Louisa Lee 3y ---------- Sheerness
Caroline 3 mth -------- Sheerness
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Deogures[?] Lee 34y Travelling grinder Milton
Caroline Lee 33y ------------ Charlton
Jem Lee 6y ------------- Milton

I have Deodgelas Lee birth cert. 6th June 1846 - Gipsy tent on the Old Dover
Road Milton . father Thomas Lee -tinker and razor grinder - mother Lydia Lee
nee Baker informant Fairnetta Baker - tent Old Dover Road,Milton

Mavis

Thank you for your help
It's nice to have been able to have a bit more information on the family I am searching

message for Sarah
who pmd me about the Charlotte/Smith families
I have left you a private message please reply :-D :-D

Hi Elizabeth,

I have only just seen your reply. Thank you for looking.

Jane

Hi Caitlin
Good to hear from you
Is that all the info that you have on her
Could do with a place of birth and poss parents names
Thanks

Hi,

Can you give me any info on. Rebecca Rackbey.
I am told she is a Romany Gypsey. Born c 1816 died c 1871.

Is Rackbey a Romany name?

Would be grateful for any information.

Regards
Caitlin

Thanks for the information you gave me.

and Bump!!!!

Rhys

nudge

Hello Elizabeth,
Many many thanks for looking at those 2 families I gave you .
I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your search for Romany blood, following through both families' ascendants and descendants in order to check thoroughly.
I am sorry that there was nothing in the way of a positive result, but on the other hand at least I can put the family rumours to bed once and for all, so for that I am very grateful for your thoroughness :-)

Thank you so much
Karen

Many thanks for looking Liz, at least that rules out the family rumour to settle our minds at last. Kind of you to do all the background work too as it's good to have our findings there confirmed. Hopefully we'll find him - one day!


Sue

sorry Sue but I cannot find any proof in my info -but I wanted to help a little so checked Ancestry/Findmypast/familysearch and freebmd
all tallied the same info so its safe to assume that this is him the above sites have no mention of anything connected to gypsys
sorry
LIZ :-) :-) :-) :-)

:-D :-Dfor Jane
this is all that I have on them but there was a transcription error and I have Prittle not Writtle
Charles George Anderson,b Prittlewell,Essex 1861 he died 1935 and married Harriette Foster in 1903 @Epping Essex
1901 @2 Albert d,North Buckhursthill and he is a labourer/bricklayer
1911@ 10 Kings Pl,Buckhursthill,Essex where he is a gen laB
and that's it hope it h telps a little but there is no ref to them being gypsys
Liz

Many thanks for that Liz. Perhaps I'm being a bit thick here, but not too sure what you mean by going off track?

We got the combination of names from the baby's birth cert, when the informant was the father Charles Richard Joseph, so it's the same names but in the wrong order on the Baptism you very kindly found.

We have however searched for him under every combination of the 3 names we could think of, plus with just one of the names and are finding nothing in any BMD records.

So we think your info pretty much tallies with what we already have, but just wonder if there is any gypsy connection as the family rumour suggests.

Thanks again,

Sue

Hi Elizabeth,

Sorry to be a pain but I was wondering if you found anything for Charles George Anderson from Writtle, Essex.

Thanks

Jane

:-D :-D for CORNISH SUSIE
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Charles Richard Carley
ok this is where I think that your search has gone off track-taken from Devon Baptism registers 1538-1915
the birth of Charles Richard Carley 22/6/1899,the baptism took place @ St Thomas,Exeter,the county of Devon, fathers name RICHARD JOSEPH CHARLES CARLEY,mother ELLEN(so fathers names the wrong way round)
ref archive 478/A/PR/1/9
or the England and Wales registers 1837-2006
Charles Richard Carley birth year 1899,3 1/4 at Exeter vol 5B pg 72
Liz