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Any stories or occupations.

Charles Trinder bn. 1846 spouse
Annie Bear-Elliott 1849 ( would like to find out her side )
child was Frederick.

Frederick George Trinder bn. 1900 spouse
Annie Warren bn.1900 ( would like to find out her line ancestors)
children:

Joan Trinder 1931
Grace Trinder 1931
George Trinder 1924

For location

Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%)
ELLIOTT Annie Bear London C. 1c 208
TRINDER Charles John London C. 1c 208

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
7, Perry Hill, Lewisham, London & Kent, England

Charles J Trinder Head Married Male 35 1846 Flour Salesman Bibury, Gloucestershire, England
Annie B Trinder Wife Married Female 32 1849 - Exminster, Devon, England
Elliot C Trinder Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Kent, England
Herbert W Trinder Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Surrey, England
Frederick H Trinder Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Catford, Kent, England
Rosa J Price Servant Single Female 20 1861 General Serv London, Middlesex, England

Not seeing where the Elliott comes into it though

Births Jun 1849 (>99%)
Bear Annie Plymouth 9 428

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Haytown Village, Bulkworthy, Bideford, Devon, England

Philip Bear Head Married Male 47 1804 Wheelwright & Carpenter Bulkworthy, Devon, England
Eliza Bear Wife Married Female 40 1811 Wheelwrights Wife Bulkworthy, Devon, England
Mary A Bear Daughter Unmarried Female 11 1840 Wheelwrights Daur Abbots Bickington, Devon, England
James Bear Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 Wheelwrights Son Bulkworthy, Devon, England
Eliza Bear Daughter Unmarried Female 6 1845 Wheelwrights Daur Bulkworthy, Devon, England
Ann Bear Daughter Unmarried Female 1 1850 Wheelwrights Daur Bulkworthy, Devon, England

The other couple:

Marriages Dec 1922 (>99%)
Trinder Frederick G Warren Greenwich 1d 1935
WARREN Annie M M Trinder Greenwich 1d 1935


Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
WARREN Annie Maria M St. Saviour 1d 131

WARREN, ANNIE MARIA MARGARET mms YOUNG
GRO Reference: 1900 D Quarter in ST. SAVIOUR SOUTHWARK LONDON Volume 01D Page 131


Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
Warren George Alderson H St. Saviour 1d 292
Young Margaret Elizabeth St. Saviour 1d 292


Annie M M Warren
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Annie M M Warren
Age: 6/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: George A H Warren
Mother: Margaret E Warren
Birth Place: Walworth, London, England
Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter, Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 378
Folio: 104
Page Number: 31
Household schedule number: 231
Household Members:
Name Age
George A H Warren 21 - carman
Margaret E Warren 18
Annie M M Warren 6/12

Annie's father's birth:

WARREN, GEORGE ALDERSON HENRY mms PHIPPS
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in ST SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 159

And death:

Deaths Dec 1965 (>99%)
WARREN GEORGE A H 85 Southwark 5e 16



Birth of a brother for Annie:

WARREN, GEORGE ALDERSON HENRY mms YOUNG
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 83

and his death:

Deaths Mar 1914 (>99%)
Warren George A H 3 Greenwich 1d 1116

George's parents' marriage:

Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%)
Phipps Anna Maria St. Saviour 1d 193
Warren George St. Saviour 1d 193

George A. Warren
in the 1881 England Census
Name: George A. Warren
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: George H. Warren
Mother: Hannah Maria Warren
Gender: Male
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Newington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 5 Richmond St
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 19c
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 545
Folio: 4
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
George H. Warren 30 - builder
Hannah Maria Warren 28
George A. Warren 1
Susannah Phipps 66


Anne Warren
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Anne Warren
Gender: Female
Age: 38
Relationship: Wife
Birth Year: 1853
Spouse: George Warren
Child: George Warren
Birth Place: Newington, London, England
Civil Parish: Newington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Residence Place: London City, Newington St Mary, London, England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, Institution or Vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 360
Folio: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
George Warren 41
Anne Warren 38
George Warren 11
Sussana Phipp 76

George A's mother's death:

Deaths Sep 1891 (>99%)
Warren Anna Maria 38 St. Saviour 1d 64


And her mother's death:

Deaths Dec 1899 (>99%)
Phipps Susannah 83 St. Saviour 1d 67

Anna M Phipps
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Anna M Phipps
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George A Phipps
Mother's name: Susannah Phipps
Gender: Female
Where born: Walworth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 160
Piece: 618
Folio: 17
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
George A Phipps 61
Susannah Phipps 56
Anna M Phipps 18
Mary Ann Sim 42 - niece
William Wilbraham 34 - lodger
Fortune Aaron 75 - lodger


Anna M Phipps
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Anna M Phipps
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George A Phipps
Mother's name: Susannah Phipps
Gender: Female
Where born: Newington, St Mary, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Newington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Walworth St Peter
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Newington
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 295
Piece: 342
Folio: 69
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
George A Phipps 51
Susannah Phipps 46
Frederick C Phipps 14
William Hy Phipps 12
Mary Ellen Phipps 10
Anna M Phipps 8
Frances E Phipps 1



Death of Frances;

Deaths Sep 1862 (>99%)
Phipps Frances Emma Newington 1d 151

Death of Susannah's husband:

Deaths Jun 1874 (>99%)
Phipps George Alderson 64 St. Saviour 1d 35
PHIPPS George Alderson 64 St. Saviour 1d 85 (This is the correct transcription)

Thankyou for all the replies! Can’t wait to get my laptop back so can properly look and digest the information found! :-)

Going back to Annie Bear / Elliott:


BEAR, ANNIE mms PEIARCE
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 09 Page 428


Nyx posted 1851 for Ann(ie), parents Philip and Eliza. Surname Bear. I don't think that's the correct family.

This looks like Annie in 1861:

Annie B Elliott
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Annie B Elliott
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: 1849
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Exminster, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Abbotskerswell
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Newton Abbot
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Piece: 1407
Folio: 12
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
John W Elliott 24
Ellen S Elliott 29 - sister
Annie B Elliott 12 - sister
James Warren 19 - servant, born Coffinswell
Mary B Essery 14 - servant
John Essery 11 - servant

Here's the sister Ellen in 1851:


Ellen Joshua Elliott [Ellen Sophia Elliott]
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Ellen Joshua Elliott
[Ellen Sophia Elliott]
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relation: Assistant
Gender: Female
Where born: Exminster, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Exeter St Thomas the Apostle
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: St Thomas
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 4g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 183
Piece: 1867
Folio: 212
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
Annell Mary Bonter 26 - school-mistress
Frederick W Bonter 37 - Royal Navy, half pay
Ellen Joshua Elliott 19 - teacher
Martha Amelia Elliott 42 - scholar [correct age maybe 12 ?] - Exminster
Mary Hannah Elliott 9 - scholar - Exminster
Harriot S Smith 10
Joseph Hobbs 5
Mary Jane Chusleigh 19


This might be the birth of Mary Hannah:

ELLIOTT, - mms BRAR
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in ST THOMAS UNION Volume 10 Page 231

Ellen with parents and siblings in 1841:

Ellen Ellick
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Ellen Ellick
[Ellen Elliott]
[Ellen Elliot]
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Gender: Female
Where born: Devon, England
Civil Parish: Exminster
Hundred: Exminster
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
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Registration district: St Thomas
Sub-registration district: Kenton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 219
Book: 23
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Ellick 38
Anna Ellick 38
Matilda Ellick 15
Soida Ellick 11
Ellen Ellick 9
Hugh Ellick 7
John Ellick 5
Martha Ellick 3
William Ellick 1

Parents' marriage ??



Frederick Hugh Elliott
mentioned in the record of Frederick Hugh Elliott and Anna Bear
Name Frederick Hugh Elliott
Spouse's Name Anna Bear
Event Date 29 Apr 1824
Event Place Kenton,Devon,England

Death of Frederick:


ELLIOTT, FREDERICK HUGH 58
GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 43


And of Anna:

ELLIOTT, ANNA 57
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 61

Marriage of their daughter Matilda:

Marriages Jun 1848 (>99%)
ELLIOTT Matilda Bear St Thomas 10 393
RENDELL John St Thomas 10 393


Matilda B Rendell
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Matilda B Rendell
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Rendell
Gender: Female
Where born: Eminster, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Coffinswell
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Torquay
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 18
Piece: 1872
Folio: 28
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
John Rendell 26 - farmer
Matilda B Rendell 24
Jessie Rendell 1
John Rendell 1 Mo
Louisa Elliott 20 - visitor
Thomasin Cann 20 - servant
Ann Clements 27 - servant
John Warren 20 - servant
Joseph Splatt 14 - servant
James Clements 12 - servant
James Warren 10 - servant, Coffinswell, Devon


There are Warrens there - James may be the same one who is with John, Ellen and Annie in 1861.

This will be the birth of Annie who married Charles Trinder:


ELLIOTT, - mms BEAR
GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in ST THOMAS UNION Volume 10 Page 247