Genealogy Chat

Do any of you brainiacs know if the 1939 register did or didn't record people in asylums or hospitals?

Thank you

Yes, it looks as if it did:


https://tinyurl.com/yaqvsoqq
"7. Prisons, hospitals etc
Unlike in the census, those in prison or other institutions supplied their full name and details. Discoveries here may lead to other records."


https://tinyurl.com/yauo6xmf
"They [FMP} said the 1939 Register, unlike a census, also recorded full details of those who were in prison or other institutions, such as hospitals or orphanages."

Thanks AG, I'll have look at that

Cant find my person at the moment who was in an asylum :-(

Do you want to give a name and I'll have a look too?

Are you sure the person you are looking for died before around 1990? If not then they may be one of the closed records so will not show up on a search.

Kath. x

Thanks Kath

Joseph Whiteley 25/10/1897 Sheffield died 1941 Storthes Hall mental hospital, Huddersfield

Cant find him anywhere. He was originally in Middlewood mental hospital but apparently moved in 1939ish due to Middlewood becoming a military hospital WW11

If you find him Kath, I shall be sending you choccy!!!

Well, he's not at Storthes Hall in 1939 - that's all I can say so far!

Storthes Hall records - apparently including patient records for the time of his death - are at West Yorkshire Archive Service, Wakefield.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=2276

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/a?_ref=201

Maybe they would say when he was admitted, and where he'd come from ??
A straw to grasp, maybe?

Similarly, Middlewood records are at Sheffield Archives, and include lists of patients 1872-1996:

https://tinyurl.com/yd7uza7m

They might say where he was evacuated to ?

Was he married? Have you found his wife if he was?

Kath. x

I think I will have to admit defeat - but the choccy sounds good.

Kath. x

You'll have to earn it first Kath!

I know most things about him and have all his BMD certificates, family, children etc..His family are showing on the 1939 register

Not thought of going to the Sheffield archives, that might be informative and maybe the W Yorks archives if they have actual records. I wonder if they can do a 'paid' search for me?

Added: Think I found the right place to have a search done £22 for 30 minutes search - brilliant, it would cost me that to drive there, park and get back home!

http://www.wyjs.org.uk/archive-service/research-service/


He was in an institution in the US in the 1920/30s and was deported. (WW1 shellshock) If I can get his records from when he was here it might tell me something about his time in the US institution (I have shipping/census info from US)

Thank you girls, you've got me thinking <3

Did he go to America with his brother Arnold? I was just nosing about in the American records on Fndmypast. Arnold seemed to go to America in 1914 and then again in 1923.

Kath. x

Yes Kath, the whole family went at various times and some were born in NJ, some stayed and some went back to the UK

Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%)
Fearn Elsie Whiteley Sheffield 9c 796 Scan available - click to view
Whiteley Joseph Fearn Sheffield 9c 796