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Puinot/Purnot/Wentworth

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Dawn

Dawn Report 29 Aug 2018 15:06

Many thanks to all who have given information of commented. This has helped put a little more together and tie up some ends. The note about merchant seaman is particularly interesting and I will have a deeper look at that.
I think the discrepancy in Dorothy's date of death comes from attaching the death index record for her daughter to the record. Dorothy only died about 7-8 years ago I think, certainly in the last 8 years. I have noticed that Ancestry sometimes adds things when you save a record and it occasionally distorts the hand entries.
I can't shake the feeling that Florent's family might have come via the Channel Islands but I have absolutely no reason for this other than one of those hunches. I know there were evacuations to the UK during WW2 when they were under occupation. I might be wrong. Time will tell

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 24 Aug 2018 19:55

Sounds very French to me, Florent is French and the name variation Pinot is also French

Mary

Mary Report 24 Aug 2018 19:42

I think maybe he died in Paris 9/11/1911 there is a item in the Overseas Register for British Subjects stating Florent L Guyot worked in London.

Maryb.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Aug 2018 19:29

I looked at the image on Freebmd for Florent Guyot .............. the record has been added by hand at the end of the list of "G" on a typed list.


I THINK (only think so far) that this is a red herring!

He does seem to disappear after this, with no records!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Aug 2018 19:18

This is the GRO Index version of that birth that malyon posted above ...........

GUYOT, FLORENS LEON mmn CORNEE
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 500 Occasional Copy: A


I haven't managed to find him anywhere else

malyon

malyon Report 24 Aug 2018 19:07

could this be the father's birth its the only one in uk there is no marriage or death with the name guyot

Births Dec 1870 (>99%)
Guyot Florent L Marylebone 1a 500a
GUYOT Florent L Marylebone 1a 500a

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Aug 2018 19:07

Just looking at your tree on Ancestry

Noticed that you have Dorothy born 1922, died 1944 .............

and then say she was the mother of 3 sons born AFTER that????

Do you want to correct the information?????

malyon

malyon Report 24 Aug 2018 18:54


Florent Leon Puinot
United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records
Name Florent Leon Puinot
Event Type Military Service
Event Year Range 1921-1941
Event Place United Kingdom
Birthplace London
Birth Year 1919

Mary

Mary Report 24 Aug 2018 18:36

Could this be his mum?

Edith A Purnot born about 1902 died1923 Mutford Suffolk V4a P1006

??Edith Agnes Poole born Forditch Kent M qtr 1903 mum nee Wilson.

Maryb.

Dawn

Dawn Report 24 Aug 2018 16:10

Many thanks for your replies. Every little helps as you know

Dawn

Dawn Report 24 Aug 2018 16:08

He was 24 years at marriage and hs occupation was recorded as Aircraft Fitter. I was surprised at first given he was in Sheffield at this time but did a bit of digging on a local forum and it turns out there was an airfield there during the war

Dawn

Dawn Report 24 Aug 2018 16:06

Hi Shirley
I have the cert for Dorothy and Florent Jnr wedding which gives father's names. I managed to pick up his mother's surname of Poole but hadn't been able to find the forename so thanks for that. I had also managed to find his birth by tracking Purnot. The family don't think he was born in Sheffield and if we are correct with the birth you have here it confirms the suspected London connection. It's from here the trail disappears.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Aug 2018 16:06

He also had a daughter who died young

View England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007
Order birth certificate for Annette Puinot
Add Alternative Information
Name: Annette Puinot
Registration Date: 1944
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Re-registration Year: 1944
Mother's Maiden Name: Harrison
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 702


Annette Puinot
Death Age: 0
Birth Date: abt 1944
Registration Date: Jun 1944
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 353

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Aug 2018 16:01

So many different ways of the spelling of the name tha t think you need to get some more certs

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Aug 2018 15:52

His death does tie in too

Anthony Peter Wentworth
Death Age: 76
Birth Date: 21 May 1919
Registration Date: Aug 1995
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Register Number: E73A
District and Subdistrict: 0481E

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Aug 2018 15:49

Ancestry does tie this both with the marraige and the change of name so think it is correct

Would his age at marriage tie with the birth year

View England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007

Name: Florent L Purnot
Registration Date: 1919
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Re-registration Year: 1919
Mother's Maiden Name: Poole
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 58


Parensts marriage

Marriages Dec 1918
Poole Edith A Purnot Pancras 1b 188
Purnet Florent Poole Pancras 1b 188

Cert will give ages and fathers names .if known

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Aug 2018 15:43

His surname is spelt different again

View England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005

Name: Dorothy Harrison
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1943
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Spouse: Florent L Pinnot
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1247

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Aug 2018 15:39

Was he born in the uk

What age was he on marriage and what was his occupation

Dawn

Dawn Report 24 Aug 2018 15:24

Looking for information about Florent Leon Puinot (Purnot in some records). He married Dorothy Harrison in Sheffield in 1943 and they had 3 sons. There is little information appearing in the searches. I know he changed his name to Anthony Peter Wentworth 1946-48 but no one knew why and he wasn't forthcoming about his family. According to the marriage cert, his father was also Florent L Puinot who was deceased at that time. I think his mother's surname may have been Poole from a search but this has the surname listed as Purnot which I suspect is a transcription error.
All help gratefully received