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Trying to sort out one man and his wife/wives?

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Nov 2020 11:47

Matilda Mercer
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Matilda Mercer
Gender: Female
Age: 8
Relationship: Granddaughter
Birth Year: 1883
Father: Walter Mercer
Birth Place: Northfleet, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Northfleet
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Residence Place: Perry Street, Northfleet, Kent, England
Registration District: Strood
Sub registration district: Northfleet
ED, Institution or Vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Piece: 650
Folio: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
George Mercer 76
Mary Mercer 64
Walter Mercer 30 - single
Matilda Mercer 8


Although Ancestry's transcription assumes Walter is Matilda's father, there's nothing to suggest that he is. Her father was probably Walter's brother James, in light of later posts on this thread.

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Nov 2020 11:43

? Matilda in 1901

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
41, Lansdowne Place, St George the Martyr Southwark, St Saviour Southwark, London & Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charlotte Adamson Head Married Female 24 1877 Paper Sorter Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Louisa Sarah Adamson Daughter Single Female 2 1899 - -
Ada Maria Howard Boarder Single Female 21 1880 Vellum Work Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Matilda Howard Boarder Single Female 19 1882 Vellum Work Greenwich, Kent, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Nov 2020 11:33

The 3 births for the children showing on the 1911 census

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ASPINALL, CYRIL WILFRED MERCER
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in STROOD Volume 02A Page 659

ASPINALL, HAROLD HERBERT MERCER
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in STROOD Volume 02A Page 725

ASPINALL, GEORGE WILLIAM MERCER
GRO Reference: 1904 D Quarter in STROOD Volume 02A Page 665


and the birth of the child who died pre 1911 ?

ASPINALL, MARY BEATRICE HOWARD
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in STROOD Volume 02A Page 678

her death -
Name: Age at Death (in years):
ASPINALL, MARY BEATRICE 0
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in STROOD Volume 02A Page 409


greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Nov 2020 11:27

And again for our info - the marriage you refer to

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
Aspinall George Strood 2a 1264 <<<<<<<<<
DANN Eliza Clara Strood 2a 1264
Howard Matilda Ann Strood 2a 1264 <<<<<<<<
Waghorn Alfred Louis Strood 2a 1264

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Nov 2020 11:22

For our info -

1911 Census For England & Wales
14 Coopers Road Perry ST, Northfleet, Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Aspinall Head Married Male 28 1883 General Labourer Woolwich Kent
Matilda Aspinall Wife Married Female 28 1883 - Kent Perry Street Northfleet
George Aspinall Son - Male 6 1905 - Kent Perry Street Northfleet
Harrold Aspinall Son - Male 3 1908 - Kent Northfleet
Cyril Aspinall Son - Male 1 1910 - Kent Perry St Northfleet

Image shiws MArried 7 years. 4 children born alive to the marriage - 3 still living, 1 has died

Angela

Angela Report 4 Nov 2020 10:44

Thanks for your replies and sorry for the lack of info. George J Aspinall b1883 Greenwich. I can only find him married in 1903 to Matilda Ann Howard at Strood, Kent. He had 9 children starting with George W Aspinall b1904 then 8 more 1907 1910 1912 1914 1917 1919 1922 1927. I found them some in census where it says he lived with his wife Matilda.
But all their mothers maiden names were Mercer.

Then there were 2 more children Mary Aspinall 1904 and Philip Aspinall 1925 their mothers maiden name was Howard. Mary and George W were not twins.
I have sent off for the birth certificates of both who were born in 1904. Hopefully this will give me the info I need but in the meantime any suggestions are more than welcome.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Nov 2020 09:52

As they married in 1903 then they should show on the 1911 census with a possible place of birth

Plus the marriage cert may give her fathers name ,if known

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 31 Oct 2020 11:54

birth certificates might also help. I have found that sometimes where a mother has been married before ( as Erika suggested) children can be registered with either of her surnames.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Oct 2020 11:50

What are the names? And location?

We can’t even try to help without those details

Have you considered that his wife may have been married before?

Buying the marriage cert would seem to be a good way to progress

What census info have you found for the family?

Angela

Angela Report 31 Oct 2020 11:34

I have a block I have a man b1883 I can find his marriage 1903 then he has children but 9 of his 11 children have another womens maiden name on their info the last 2 children have their his wife's maiden name on thier info.
Any suggestions please?
Oh and I can't find one of the women at all. His wife I can only find on their marriage info so not a clue where she is from y.