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Olwyn Isobel Moffat

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Audrey

Audrey Report 13 Feb 2021 18:55

Born 1929 in Lancaster UK
Mother Frances Moffat
Father unknown
Birth certificate shows Olwyn was put up for adoption
Would love to find out what happened to her but records seem to have disappeared

Kay????

Kay???? Report 13 Feb 2021 19:41

The records havnt disappeared adoption full records are closed records and not in the public domain,,,,they are confidential and only accessed by the adopted person themselves,,,,,,

Her surname at least would have been changed and possibly christian names aswell,so no hope of discovering who she became.unless the mother married and she was then formally adopted by her husband.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Feb 2021 20:35

If you are a blood relation, you can add yourself to the National Adoption Contact Register

Adoption records are accessible ONLY to the adopted child

The birth record on freebmd shows MMN Sanderson

Frances Sanderson married John Moffat in Carlisle in 1922

malyon

malyon Report 13 Feb 2021 21:30

i dont see this birth for olwyn

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Feb 2021 23:04

Not seeing any such birth


Where did you get the info

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 13 Feb 2021 23:07

?

Alwyn I Moffat
Registration Date: Oct 1929
[Nov 1929]
[Dec 1929]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Lancaster
Inferred County: Lancashire
Mother's Maiden Name: Sanderson
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 832

But this one shows mum was married


Possibly

Marriages Dec 1922
MOFFAT John J Sanderson Carlisle 10b 1013
Sanderson Frances Moffat Carlisle 10b 1013

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Feb 2021 23:56

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Frances Sanderson
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Frances Sanderson
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Carlisle
Civil Parish: Carlisle
Country: England
Street Address: 113 Union St
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Manufacture Of Biscuits
Registration District Number: 574
Sub-registration District: St Cuthbert
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Piece: 31307
Household Members:
Name Age
William Sanderson 46
William Sanderson 19
Maggie Sanderson 17
Frances Sanderson 15
Kate Sanderson 13


John James Moffat
in the 1911 England Census
Name: John James Moffat
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Carlisle
Country: England
Street Address: 16 Harrison Street Carlisle
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Cotton Dyer
Registration District Number: 574
Sub-registration District: St Cuthbert
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 31314
Household Members:
Name Age
Beatrix Moffat 53
Jemina Moffat 24
George Moffat 22
Thomas William Moffat 20
Jane Thompson Moffat 18
John James Moffat 15


John J Moffat
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: John J Moffat
Death Age: 64
Birth Date: abt 1896
Registration Date: Jan 1960
[Feb 1960]
[Mar 1960]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Carlisle
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume: 1a
Page: 22


???

John J Moffatt
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: John J Moffatt
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 26 Oct 1895
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 18
Residence Place: Carlisle, Cumberland, England
Occupation: ?? Dycing Dyer Winch
Line Number: 29
Schedule Number: 259
Sub Schedule Number: 4
Enumeration District: HABH
Borough: Carlisle
Registration district: 574/1
Household Members Age
Margaret Little 42
This record is officially closed.
Margaret Little 15
John J Moffatt 44
Doris Moffatt 16 [ later surname Bowman]

No Frances or Olwen with them in 1939


Births Sep 1923 (>99%)
Moffat Doris Sanderson Carlisle 10b 1037

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 13 Feb 2021 23:59

Perhaps Frances's husband was not the father of the baby and she didn't name the father or he wouldn't let her give his name as father. The surname would still be his as this would be the mother's surname at the time if she was still married to him.

Kath. x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Feb 2021 00:23

A sibling ??

Births Dec 1927 (>99%)
Moffat Joyce Sanderson Carlisle 10b 823


Joyce Moffat
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Joyce Moffat
Death Age: 1
Birth Date: abt 1928
Registration Date: Jan 1929
[Feb 1929]
[Mar 1929]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Carlisle
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 880

Other possible siblings born in Carlisle:

Harold 1925, Gwennith 1931

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 18 Feb 2021 23:28

More on Frances here:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1094363

Rose

Audrey

Audrey Report 6 Mar 2021 16:22

Thank you all for your replies. Much appreciated

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2021 17:00

Add yourself to the national adoption contact register

Are you in contact with the GR member who has her in his tree? ( With the correct spelling of her name)

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 6 Mar 2021 17:09

I see you have the birth certificate. What was Olwyn's actual date of birth?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2021 17:11

Her birth was registered as Alwyn..........