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ArgyllGran Report 24 May 2021 09:16

1881 for our reference:

Jane Harris
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Jane Harris
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Charles Harris
Mother: Jane Harris
Gender: Female
Where born: Schackewell, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St John Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Middle St <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Employment status:
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Occupation: Scholar
Registration District: Hackney
Sub registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 9a
Piece: 290
Folio: 40
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Harris 50
Jane Harris 45
William Harris 16
Jane Harris 10
Ada Harris 8
Eliza Harris 3
Elizabeth Harris [10 mths ]
Jane Street 75

And 1871, also in Middle Street:

Jane Harris
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Jane Harris
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: 1827
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: London England
Civil parish: Hackney St John
Ecclesiastical parish: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 7a
Household schedule number: 76
Piece: 315
Folio: 9
Page number: 12
Household Members Age Relationship
Charles Harris 44 Head
Jane Harris 44 Wife
George Harris 11 Son
William Harris 6 Son
Elizabeth Mally 24 Lodger, UNMARRIED <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

If Elizabeth Mally is indeed Elizabeth Macey, which could be feasible, my guess is that she invented a husband for respectability, when the birth was registered.

Who registered the birth?

The child's stated parents seem to be a mish-mash of Elizabeth's own surname as the father's name, Jane Harris's maiden name, and Charles Harris's first name.

Maybe Charles Harris was the father??


BrianW Report 24 May 2021 07:43

He was a ground labourer when Jane was born.
The address on her birth cert is 4 Middle Street.
I've scheduled the Harrises from 1841 through to 1911.

On the 1871 census there is an an "Elizabeth Mally" aged 24 which I suspect is a mis-described Elizabeth Macey.


ErikaH Report 23 May 2021 21:27

What was Charles Macey’s occupation?
What was the address on the birth cert?
Have you looked for the Harrises in censuses before 1881?


BrianW Report 23 May 2021 21:18

My great grandmother was Jane Macey, born 9th November 1871 to Charles Macey and Elizabeth Crawley. I have her birth certificate which was handed down.

She seems to have been informally adopted from birth or shortly after by Charles Harris and Jane Harris, nee Crawley, shown as "daughter" on the 1881 census and in adulthood was known as Hannah Jane. The 1939 Register confirms I have the right connection with the exact same DoB.

Charles and Jane were married in Hackney on 1st June 1846

I have been unable to find proven birth details, c. 1847, or a marriage for Charles and Elizabeth, which would have been late 1860s or very early 1870s and after Jane's birth they seem to have vanished.

I guess that Elizabeth (Crawley) was daughter or niece of Jane but once again, lack proof.

The Harrises lived at 4 Middle Street Shacklewell.

Any filling of gaps would be appreciated.