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I'd be interested to know which marriage you think is that of Ambrose's parents..................

Name: Maria Selling
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 16 Aug 1809
Baptism Place: St Peter's, Canterbury, Kent, England
Father: Richard Selling
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 1736628



1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
65, Behind Stonehouse Lane, St Andrew, Plymouth, Devon, England
Richard Selling Head Married Male 67 1784 Labourer Kent, England
Mary Ann Selling Wife Married Female 37 1814 - Stoke Climsland, Cornwall, England

1861

Name: Mary A Salling
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: 1814
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where Born: Callington, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration District: Plymouth
Sub-registration District: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 755
Piece: 1439
Folio: 117
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary A Salling 47


Marriages Jun 1845 (>99%)
Selling Richard Stoke Damerel 9 506
Trend Mary Ann Stoke Damerel 9 506

17th June 1845

Both widowed
His father Richard Selling, Publican
Her father David Rapson, Labourer

SELLING, RICHARD 79
GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 207

Name: Selling Richard Smith
Death Date: 8 May 1905
Death Place: Surrey, England
Probate Date: 20 Jun 1905
Probate Registry: London, England
Probate to Daniel Robert Smith and James Bertie Collier

The parents and some older siblings were in Cavalry and Artillery Barracks, St Mary, Northgate, Canterbury in 1841 - father Daniel's occupation FARRIER - as per Ambrose's marriage cert.

Danl Smith 30.born in Kent
Maria Smith 30 born in Kent
Daniel Smith 6
Richd Smith 1
Maria S Smith 15 born in Kent

Name: John Jesse Smith
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1847
Marriage Date: 24 Sep 1871
Marriage Place: Christ Church, Watney Street, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: Daniel Smith
Spouse: Isabella Pendley
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Private Daniel Smith
Enlistment Age: 20
Discharge Age: 44
Birth Date: abt 1808
Birth Place: Rainham Kent
Enlistment Year: 1828
Discharge Year: 1852
Regiment: Thirteenth Regt Of Light Dragoons
Regimental Number: 493


Name: Ambrose Allen Todd Smith
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1851
Marriage Date: 12 Jun 1876
Marriage Place: St Paul, Shadwell, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: Daniel Smith
Spouse: Maria Martha Westerby
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Kodey Smith
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 08 Feb 1838
Baptism Date: 21 Feb 1838
Baptism Age: 0
Baptism Place: Bangalore, Madras, India
Father: Daniel Smith
Mother: Maria
FHL Film Number: 521841

Name: Maria Sarah Smith
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 23 Jan 1833
Baptism Date: 05 Feb 1833
Baptism Age: 0
Baptism Place: Bangalore, Madras, India
Father: Daniel Smith
Mother: Maria
FHL Film Number: 521841
Name: Maria Sarah Smith
Gender: Female


Age: 1
Birth Date: 1833
Burial Date: 24 Aug 1834
Burial Place: Bangalore, Madras, India
Father: Daniel Smith
Mother: Maria
FHL Film Number: 521842

1861

Name: Ambrose A Smith
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: 1851
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Daniel Smith
Mother's Name: Maria Smith
Gender: Male
Where Born: Glasgow, Scotland
Civil Parish: Portland
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: Weymouth
Sub-registration District: Isle of Portland
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 18
Piece: 1351
Folio: 124
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Smith 53
Maria Smith 51
John J Smith 14
Ambrose A Smith 10
Mariam A Smith 8


Name: Daniel Smith
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 10 Feb 1829*****************************************************
Marriage Place: Canterbury, Kent, England
Spouse: Maria Selling
FHL Film Number: 1786210

According to a tree on Ancestry his father was Daniel Smith but perhaps that was his mother's husband.

Kath. x

1851 CENSUS

Name: Ambrose Allen Todd Smtih
Age: 9 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relationship: Soldiers Child (Soldier)
Gender: Male
Where Born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Parish Number: 647
Civil Parish: Hamilton
County: Lanarkshire
ED: Hamilton Cavalry Barracks
Page: 8
Household Schedule Number: 1
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1851_168
Household Members:
Name Age
Maria Smith 42......born Canterbury, Kent
Cecilia Smith 19
Daniel S Smith 16
Sellins Richard Smith 11
John Jesse Smith 4
Ambrose Allen Todd Smtih 9 Mo
Elizabeth Gussin 26
Mary Gussin 4
Edward Gussin 1
Jane Bruce 29
Amelia Bruce 9

Above found on ANCESTRY

Can't see the record on FMP or on SP

Don't assume anything until you can prove/disprove it, by investigating carefully

WHO were his parents?

Were they both single when they married?

Civil registration didn't start in Scotland until 1855 so there won't be a birth certificate. You could look for a baptism for him. Try looking for a baptism for him using his mother's maiden name if his parents weren't married until after he was born. He could have still been their child.

You need Scotlandspeople website for Scottish records.

Kath. x

Ambrose was my gt gt grandfather on my Dad's side. Recently I discovered that it appears he was born 12 years before his parents were married so I assume he must have been adopted. I can only assume that he took the name Smith as I cannot find any record of his birth or entry in the census until he became a Smith.

Would anyone have any ideas where I might be able to apply to for any information please?

Thanks

Gill