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Florence Dunham died 1922

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Sheila

Sheila Report 27 Jul 2022 20:44

It seems interesting but i do not know this family, will have to check. The two children were taken on with different Dunham children but have checked them all and can find nothing, for 1921 or later. Kenneth went with Sidney Dunham and he came to Blackburn Lancashire where he met my mother, the family did not know about it, it was mentioned as a big secret, I only found out by hiring a genealogist in London who found the newspaper cutting for the suicide and his death certificate.At this time my mother had died so could not ask questions.

Sheila

Sheila Report 27 Jul 2022 20:46

Seems a lot of things to check, I will let you know if I find anything.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Jul 2022 20:52

Sidney
Dunham
1889
Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Rishton
Blackburn
Lancashire

It says he's with Dunham - but I can't find who that is.
Perhaps it's one of 1921's mistranscriptions.

alviegal

alviegal Report 27 Jul 2022 21:08

Sorry Argyll but I think this is the Margery you found in 1921.

Margery
Adams
1910
Highbury, London, England
Enfield
Edmonton
Middlesex


David
Jones
1875
Holloway, London, England
Enfield
Edmonton
Middlesex


Lily
Ross
1879
Purton, Wiltshire, England
Enfield
Edmonton
Middlesex


Norah
Ross
1909
Clapton, London, England
Enfield
Edmonton
Middlesex


Robert
Ross
1874
Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Enfield
Edmonton
Middlesex


Renie
Ross
1909
Clapton, London, England
Enfield
Edmonton
Middlesex


The Rosses in 1911


1911 Census For England & Wales
33 Lincoln Road Enfield, Enfield, Middlesex, England

Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Henry Ross Head
Married Male 37 1874 House painter Liverpool
Lily Lavinia Ross Wife
Married Female 32 1879 - Purton Wiltshire
Reine Ross Daughter
- Female 1 1910 - Clapton London
Norah Ross Daughter
- Female 1 1910 - Clapton London

alviegal

alviegal Report 27 Jul 2022 21:16

Argyll, I think this is the household you have got mixed up with for Margery.


Edmund
Adams
1859
Waltham Abbey, Essex, England
Enfield
Edmonton
Middlesex

Ellen
Adams
1858
Hoddesdon, Hertfordshire, England
Enfield
Edmonton
Middlesex

Lily
Adams
1896
Kirton, Suffolk, England
Enfield
Edmonton
Middlesex

Robert Alfred
Rothwell
1881
Westminster, London, England
Enfield
Edmonton
Middlesex

Anita
Rothwell
1889
Argentina
Enfield
Edmonton
Middlesex


Margaret Anita
Rothwell
1920
Enfield, Middlesex, England
Enfield
Edmonton
Middlesex

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Jul 2022 01:11

Oh yes, I think you're right, alviegal.

By the hovering method:
Margery is with Robert, Lily, and 3 others.
Lily (I assumed she would be Adams) is with Robert Alfred, Anita and 3 others.
Robert Alfred is with Anita, Margaret Anita and 3 others.
Margaret Anita is with Anita, Robert Alfred & 3 others.
Anita is with Robert Alfred, Margaret Anita & 3 others.

I was knocked off track by assuming that Lily would be Lily Adams, and also .I was sure I'd seen Robert and Robert Alfred mentioned together in one of the hovered results - but must have been mistaken.

It would be helpful if surnames were included in the hovered results!


ADDED:
However, Margery with the Ross household remains a possibility for Marjorie May.

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Jul 2022 11:01

That would give away too much "Free" information AG - people might not have to pay FMP to see full results :-D

Sheila

Sheila Report 28 Jul 2022 11:18

I am not a subscriber of Find My Past now, I wanted to do 1921 census lookup but had difficulties because not a member of Find My Past. Or maybe I have got it wrong

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 28 Jul 2022 11:26

Sheila
Everyone has to pay to see the 1921 census, even those with a sub to FMP. Although they get a little discount.

This is why you haven’t been given the full details just the ‘hover’ result which you can do yourself.

Sheila

Sheila Report 28 Jul 2022 11:31

Sorry, thanks for everybody that has helped me, maybe it is I live abroad and got the wrong telephone Number

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 28 Jul 2022 13:43

Telephone number ? You access and pay on line via the 1921 section on FMP.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Jul 2022 16:40

No sub or membership required for the 1921 census, Sheila.
(And certainly no telephone number.)

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/1921-census

A basic search is free.
When you think you've found the person you're looking for, hover the cursor over the transcript/image symbol to the right of the search result.
It will tell you how many people there were in the household, and give you the first names of up to two of them.

It's often possible to figure out who the other members of the household are, by trial and error (error in my case with Margery above!), free of charge.

However, if you want the address, or to see the whole household, then you pay-per-view for either the transcript or the image.

Sheila

Sheila Report 28 Jul 2022 17:34

I was trying to access the pay for view by my English debit card but it threw me out saying not got correct details and we had to ring them or the building society, I will try again. Thanks for trying, I found a Dorothy P Dunham 1916 with a number of relatives I knew and three others, now I know Marjorie left her something in her will, so I am wondering if this is the family she went to, she stopped in London

Sheila

Sheila Report 28 Jul 2022 18:41

Just to let you know I managed to get the Dorothy P Dunham family in 1921 but to no avail Marjorie was not on it. Back to the drawing board Thanks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jul 2022 14:59

Strangely, there is no record in 1921 of 11 Bruce Grove, Tottenham

Sheila

Sheila Report 29 Jul 2022 16:48

That is where she was in 1922 when she died, I thought maybe in hospital in 1921 but also it mentions on death certificate 2 St Micheals Road, Wood Green?

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Jul 2022 22:18

One address may be where she died and the other where she was normally resident or maybe one was the address of the informant of the death.

Sheila

Sheila Report 29 Jul 2022 22:23

The informant was her mother and she lived at 3 Crosby Terrace, Long Lane, Finchley

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jul 2022 11:37

Elaborating on 3 Crosby Terrace in 1921............basic info already posted by AG

Eliza
Dunham
1855
Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Finchley
Barnet
Middlesex

Elsie
Dunham
1912
Finchley, Middlesex, England
Finchley
Barnet
Middlesex

Ethel
Dunham
1894
Finchley, Middlesex, England
Finchley
Barnet
Middlesex

James
Dunham
1852
Sloley, Norfolk, England
Finchley
Barnet
Middlesex

Maisie
Dunham
1920
Finchley, Middlesex, England
Finchley
Barnet
Middlesex

Thomas
Dunham
1888
Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Finchley
Barnet
Middlesex

Plus Sidney, born 1911

Separate household at the address

Frances Edward
Creram


Finchley
Barnet
Middlesex
Plus one unnamed individual said to have been born in 1848

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jul 2022 11:53

Kay's post refers to 117 Frobisher Road, Hornsey

In 1911, 1921 and 1939, the last number in that road is 111