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(Rn.Henry VII) (Tudor)

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nameslessone

nameslessone Report 4 Aug 2022 17:08

So do I and as I said , the whole line has been added by the original tree owner.

Christian

Christian Report 4 Aug 2022 15:59

Yeah the 10th G/G/F bit I assume is 1oth great grand father, so assume that's from the tree holder.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 4 Aug 2022 15:44

I found the reference attached to Roberts son:
Gregory Waterhouse (10thG/G/F) (Rn.HenryVIII) (Tudor) Rn

Dates are 1528 - 1589 But I would be a bit dubious as some of the children overlap with dates for the same name.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Aug 2022 15:28

I imagine it could mean "in the reign of".

It seems to be just someone's personal note, not an official abbreviation.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 4 Aug 2022 15:25

I also found that via Google ( a useful tool) but it doesn't do anything to answer your question.

Re my comment earlier (15:14) with so many trees on Ancestry it is going to be imposible to find the person who first added that annotation .

Christian

Christian Report 4 Aug 2022 15:17

Got this info on him as well


Robert Waterhouse of Moot Hall, [1] Halifax was the second son of John Waterhouse and his wife, Agnes Rishworth. [2][3]

Robert married Sibil Savile, daughter of Robert Savile of Shibden Hall, Southowram [3]14 May 1522 in Southowram, Halifax with a special dispensation to marry granted by Cardinal Wolsey, they being related twice in the second degree. [2][4] They had issue:

John
George
Gregory
Richard [citation needed]
1545 John, son of Robert of Shibden, and Robert his grandson, purchased for 150li. 5s the reversion of the fee simple of the manor rectory of Halifax after the death of Anne of Cleves, to whom it had been granted by Henry VIII for her life. [5]

1554 Robert along with his sons, John, George, and Gregory, and with Michael Wentworth, esq., by letters patent became the farmers, i.e. lesses, of the uinage of saleable woolen cloths in the county and city of York. [6]

Robert wrote a will in 1578 and it was probated 15 Mar 1580 [7][3] He was buried in Halifax Minster, Yorkshire, England


Sources
? Brown. Yorkshire Deeds: Volume 3. Cambridge University Press, 2013.pgs 128-129.
? 2.0 2.1 Chapters on the early registers of Halifax parish church. (Ed) by W.J. Walker By Edward Johnson Walker Page 43
? 3.0 3.1 3.2 Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry, vol 2, p 1530
? WALKER, Walter James., and Edward Johnson. WALKER. Chapters on the early registers of Halifax Parish Church . From the ... collection of ... Edward Johnson Walker, etc. (Halifax Parish Church Registers. 1538-1541.). Halifax: Whitley & Booth, 1885. Page 43.
? Brown. Yorkshire Deeds: Volume 3. Cambridge University Press, 2013.pgs 128-129.
? Brown. Yorkshire Deeds: Volume 3. Cambridge University Press, 2013.pgs 128-129
? Hunter, Joseph. Familiae minorum gentium. Vol. 3. London: The Harleian Society , 1895

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Aug 2022 15:15

Looking at the 'record' to which you refer, it's posted by an Ancestry member. (There is NO source info, and not one single record other than those posted by Ancestry member/s)

Try making contact with that person..................ask him or her what it's supposed to mean

Incidentally the notation actually refers to Henry VIII - NOT Henry VII

Henry VII (Welsh: Harri Tudur; 28 January 1457 – 21 April 1509

Henry VIII

Born: 28 June 1491, Palace of Placentia
Died: 28 January 1547, Palace of Whitehall, London

RN usually means Royal Navy, but may not do so in this instance, as the 'n' is lower case

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 4 Aug 2022 15:14

Looking at one of the many ancestry trees it seems to me to be the notes of whoever wrote the orignal tree.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Aug 2022 15:09

Probably best to contact a historian who specialises in Tudor history

You're incredibly lucky to have been able to PROVE your family history as far back as that

Christian

Christian Report 4 Aug 2022 14:50

Was found on ancestry, he is called Robert of Halifax Waterhouse, b.1507, d.1578.
Through googling what it means, found other examples not related to me, but unable to ascertain what it means exactly. His parents were Sir John waterhouse (1460-1545) and Lady Agnes Rishworth (1474-1542).

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Aug 2022 14:35

Context?

Website?

Sources?

Christian

Christian Report 4 Aug 2022 14:29

So whilst researching my family, ive come across (Rn.Henry VII) (Tudor) next to some of the names, what does this mean? Specifically the Rn bit.