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Hi everyone i am looking for thomas hawkins born about 1847 i know a lot of people are ..apparantly he was born in italy under the name of louis landi and came to england at an early age , he worked for a judge henry hawkins and the judge gave him his name , thomas married emma munt and on the marriage certificate it had thomas's father as John Hawkins ? the family lived in stevenage and then moved to tottenham .. tewkesbury road .. there was another family of hawkins living close by was this your family ? in the 1881 census living at 12 charles street john hawkins with wife lois ?? was maybe thomas hawkins was somehow related to this family was he a witness to one of their marriages ??or thomas and emma munt as witnesses to a marriage may be a connection . any help would be greatly appreciated many people are looking for thomas he is a mystery .. in the 1871 census it says he was born in Nottinghamshire this is another mystery have you got a thomas born there that you can no longer trace ?? also he worked for a Mr James is your family the James family living in the tottenham area or maybe you are tracing the Landi family .. thanks for reading my post tracy

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Luigi Lando
in the England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869
Name Luigi Lando
Arrival Date 5 Apr 1840
Arrival Place London, England
Country of Origin/Native of Italy

Arrived as one of a group of "organ musicians".
The others were: his cousin also called Luigi Lando; Giuseppe Danero; Giov. Batt. Daner; Agostino Oliveri; Giovanni Battisto.

I don't know which of the Luigis might be "Thomas Hawkins".


EDIT:
But no, of course Thomas Hawkins was too young to be either of those, if only born in 1847.

For our reference -

Thomas-Luigi Hawkins-Landi
in the UK and Ireland, Find a Grave® Index, 1300s-Current
Name Thomas-Luigi Hawkins-Landi
Birth Date 1848
Birth Place Provincia di Vercelli, Piemonte, Italy
Death Date 21 Feb 1899
Death Place Tottenham, London Borough of Haringey, Greater London, England
Cemetery Tottenham Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Tottenham, London Borough of Haringey, Greater London, England
Has Bio? N
Spouse Emma Hawkins
Children Charles Thomas Hawkins

There's a long obituary on the Findagrave site, written in 2006 by Tracy (aka Twinklestar, our OP), and it seems that's where much of the info on Findagrave came from.

He has no gravestone - only a wooden cross with the name Thomas Hawkins painted on it, and the dates 1848 - 1899.
By contrast, Emma and the son Charles, in the same cemetery (Tottenham) share a proper carved stone, and a grave with stone edging.

To find out if the other Hawkins were witnesses to marriage etc you need to see the certificates or register entries.

You say you're "looking for" him - I'm not sure what you mean.

Do you mean you want to know where he was before he married Emma in 1867?
But you know he worked for Henry Hawkins. (How?)

If you're trying to prove a connection with John & Lois Hawkins -
Hawkins isn't an uncommon name, and it's probably only a coincidence that two Hawkins families happen to be living in the same street in 1881 - John & Lois at number 12, and Thomas & Emma at number 79.

The 1881 and 1891 censuses say he was born in Stevenage.
1871 says Nottingham.

He is in THREE trees on GR........try making contact as per my original advice. It may prove fruitful

Thomas, under his English names, is also in 2 trees on Ancestry. One suggests that his paternal side came from Nottinghamshire but gives no clues as to why Thomas was born in Italy.