Genealogy Chat

The 1841 census includes Harriet Ellis- none of the Ellis' born in County

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Houghton, St Ives, Huntingdonshire, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Richard Ellis Male 45 1796 -
Margaret Ellis Female 45 1796 -
Henry Ellis Male 25 1816 -
Harriet Ellis Female 19 1822 -
Francis Cross Male 25 1816 -
Henry Ayre Male 0 1841 Huntingdonshire, England


and in 1851 - Richard and Margaret born in Norfolk, so children may well have been born there too

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Queen Street, Houghton, St Ives, Huntingdonshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Ellis Head Married Male 58 1793 Journeyman millers Broughton, Norfolk, England
Margaret Ellis Wife Married Female 56 1795 - West Acre, Norfolk, England
Henry Ellis Son Unmarried Male 35 1816 Shoemaker Norfolk, England

Some lovely pictures of Houghton -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houghton,_Cambridgeshire

IF that is the correct family -Norfolk Baptisms

Mundham, Norfolk, England

First name(s) Harriet Elizabeth
Last name Ellis
Sex Female
Birth year 1823
Birth date 06 Feb 1823
Baptism year 1823
Baptism date 06 Apr 1823
Father's first name(s) Richard
Mother's first name(s) Margaret Hartgrow <<<<<< original has Margaret late Hartgrow
Place Mundham
Diocese Norwich
County Norfolk
Country England
Archive Norfolk Record Office
Archive reference PD 650/5
Register year range 1813-1909
Page 13
Document Type Parish registers
Record set Norfolk Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
© Findmypast

IF above correct then

Marriage -

Transcript - Richard Ellis to Margaret Hartgross 3 October 1815 at Little Dunham

Looking at original her surname may read Hartgrow/Hartgrove

By licence - with consent of parents.

A further record says his parish was Munford and hers Little Dunham.

The Marriage Licence record gives his age as 24 hers as 21 and last name Hartgrove
A " guarantor" on the licence paperwork is a Robert Ellis

Have sent Sharon a PM in case she does not realise there are replies here.

Thankyou all for your responses, It looks like Lydia and lizzie could be the same person?
I just do not understand the name change on the documents?

marriage certificate says Lydia but the birth records show Lizzie.
I'm not really understanding why that would be.
How do I view the original records?
thankyou all

She may simply have disliked the name Lizzie, and changed it. One can use any name as long as it isn’t with intent to defraud or deceive.
My stepmother was registered as Martha, but used the name Maisie all her life.