General Chat

Today's rebel is tomorrow's tyrant.

Yesterday's rebel is today's elder statesman. (eg. Nelson Mandella.)

Lily - yes Enoch Powell did predict, to a certain extent. I think really you need to go and read about him. Possibly the reason you have had little response about him, is that, comments by some may appear racist, and your thread would be pulled.
If you want to pm me, please feel free to do so.
P.S. Surely no dictators are good dictators. Look at Mugabe
Julia in Derbyshire

LOL....Carol....I appreciate..your opinion..I can see that people will be..careful..in what they say...

I have youtubed..and googled..am still non the wiser..

My..interpretation is this..in ways he was a bit like George Orwell..in his..predictions..of the future..he predicted problems that `could` arise..they have done...I can not get my head around his.."rivers of blood` speech...ambigous..to the extreme..
This speech by all accounts is famous..but misunderstood..~~?

The only thing about Enoch Powell that sticks in my memory were his views on immigration (to Great Britain) and later, his reluctance over Britain joining the "Common Market". I won,t air my opinions here as it might result in your thread being "pulled".lol

~~However...I am interested to hear about your views on Enoch Powell...specifically...because..My knowledge of him..was non existent...until it was pointed out to me..he was quite important..(..I do have excuse..that he was prominant..in yr I was born..)..I was never taught anything in history at school about him...so..would appreciate..anyones views...

~~~Carol...you are totally right....I stand corrected...
A dictator..is a tyrant..one that rules a country..to absolute power...a ` Leader`...Is probably what I meant.....

Am I totally misunderstanding the thread title...."Dictators of our time-Churchill being one, of course?
May I respectfully submit that Churchill WAS NOT a dictator. How can you possible equate Churchill with the likes of Mussolini, Idi Amin, Stalin, Saddam and Mugabe? ( I won,t mention Hitler).lol

~~but was there not something in the bible..regarding the rivers turning red?...Was he not using a Metaphor?...
...`A great dictator` .open to interpretation some would say..Churchill..others would say..Thatcher..
For me..a `great dictator`..is someone..that gave guidance..in difficult times...~~

Do,nt think so Lily,He was a Greek Scholar,I cant remember who he quoted from but not from the Bible.**M**.

.can there be such a thing as a 'great' dictator? I thought the two terms would be mutually exclusive.
Angela

you sure it wasnt a biblical reference Merlin?

He was Quoting from the Greek Classics,It was something like "Like the Roman,I see Blood on the Tiber" It was the press who came out with the "Rivers of Blood" Theme. **M**.

(and for the record..I dont want Hitler to feature in this thread!)x

Sparrows thread...Churchill being one of course...

Enoch Powell..was discussed briefly..(..I admit..did not know much about him..)...Since..have googled..you tubed..and got a fair impression on him.."rivers of blood" speech in particular...
your views..was he misrepresented...misunderstood?

your views much appreciated...many thanks...