General Chat

I did say it was a novelty Athena - they wondered what I was doing!!

Back on topic.
Alice Mahon has left the labour party after many years.
One of the reasons being:
"We said we would give people a referendum on the [EU] constitution. And yet the Lisbon Treaty has just been rushed through Parliament with no referendum and that's another promise we've broken."

This is my meandering now:
As a democracy, we are meant to have a say in what the government does, yet I haven't been invited to vote on a referendum since the Labour party came into power. Have I been in the wrong place at the wrong time, or has the word 'democracy' changed it's meaning over the past 15 years?

I'm most impressed - never managed to get such a clever system in operation. My little devils seem to be reading my mind, the whole time.

I distracted mine - I was moving all the furniture around and washing floors - this was such a novelty that I managed to get them into the room one at a time by one door and released them through the other!!

Going off the thread, a bit, here, Maggie, but when mine see me even open the box , they are off like shots!!

Athena xx

It is a bit scary isn't it, Athena. Just happened to be listening to the news in bed this morning and it really hit home!!
Especially when the police watchdog that there were no CCTV cameras in the area where Ian Thomlinson was walking!! There must be at least 2 on every corner in Central London!! Transpires they didn't know about the cameras!!! I expect we'll find out that they were mtsteriously turned off whilst the G12 summit was going on!!


Betty is fine now thanks - all the cats are extremelly miffed with me at the moment, as I've just put flea stuff on them!!

I'd like to make a reply, too, Maggie, but, to be honest, I am so disheartened by it all that I am unable to say what I really think.

Do hope your little cat is alright, now, by the way.

Meri/Athena

And there was me thinking...........The Prisoner,with Patrick Mcgowan.
( St Merion). LOL

I did say there was more Fred, and I wouldn't say I've 'got it in' for this government - just stating facts!!!

This is the most taxed country in the world, even the poorest are taxed

We are the most surveilled people in the world

We pay a tax to cover us for illness - but when we're ill, we have to pay for medication

Unless they have the money for particular drugs - some people are denied them and are left to die

A lot of people are so badly paid they have to rely on handouts

Pensioners aged over 65 make up around 1.3 million of the three million people in this country at medium or high risk of being malnourished, despite accounting for only 16% of the population.


Imagine if this was a country that the Western world considers 'undeveloped' - they'd say it was a dictatorship!!

Coooo,Maggie,you have it in for the government ,someone after my own heart lol,more like communists than the communists.
You forgot about the emails though ,with brown ,and his lot even snooping there as well,def' fast becoming a police state.Fred.

The citizens are constantly monitored by cameras.

Surveillance is carried out on random people to ensure they aren't disobeying laws - like leaving their bins out, or saying they live in one area when they don't.

Cameras monitor the speed of cars, and even if the speed limit is wrong - they have no come- back.

Peaceful protest, though allowed is restricted.

Permission has to be sought before a protest can take place.
This ensures that, during a protest, protesters and innocent bystanders alike can herded into a small area and forced to stay there for up to 6 hours with no toilet facilities, food or drink.

Police will randomly hit out with their truncheons to 'maintain order'.

The government decides what is taught in schools.

Sleaze is widespread amongst government employees, as is spending of public money for personal expenses.

Ministers regularly 'employ' relatives to pay themselves more public money.

Police can raid a person's home/office on the say so of an MP or public 'official' for no real reason.

Police can shoot to kill if they believe the person they shoot is a terrorist - with no tangible evidence.

You can be fined for putting the 'wrong' rubbish in your bin.


I could go on - but can you guess?