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Lesley

Lesley Report 21 Apr 2009 22:08

I am trying to trace my late mother's parents. I know from the birth record that her father's surname was Harvey and her mother's surname was Justice I have no idea of their christian names.
How can I trace them. I have used loads of credits checking mariages guessing a date but they dont show both surnames

Julie

Julie Report 21 Apr 2009 22:12

If you buy you Mums B/C it will give you her parents names
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This Might be them

Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)
HARVEY William Henry Bristol 6a 438
JUSTICE Louisa Mary Bristol 6a 438

Sara

Sara Report 21 Apr 2009 22:12

a William Henry Harvey and a Louisa Mary Justice appear on the same page married in Bristol 4Q 1907 6a/438, is that any use to you ?

Lesley

Lesley Report 21 Apr 2009 22:23

Thank you both for your replies alas I dont think that they can be the right people as my mum was born in 1913 and I think that she had one brother who was older than her. I was looking around 1890.

I will apply for my mum's birth certificate.
I am very new to this so any hints will be most gratefully received.

Once again thanks very much.
Also one more question does EVERY death have to be reccorded I cannot find record of my step father's death and my mum had a still born child in 1935?36 but I cannot find any recod of birth or death

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 21 Apr 2009 22:37

In theory all deaths should be on the index but some may well have been missed off. Stillbirths wouldn't appear. There is a separate index for those. In which area was your Mum born and do you know her older brothers name or roughly when he might have been born?

Lesley

Lesley Report 21 Apr 2009 22:44

My mother was born in Bristol in 1913 her older brothers were William and George. I am assuming that they were all born in Bristol. She had more brothers and sisters younger than her, they were called joyce,lillian,jean,raymond. I have seached for these also but with limited amount of information to their birth dates It is a huge amount of guess work.
I have contacted people with trees with these names in but have had no reply as yet.

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Apr 2009 22:48

If your mother was born in 1913 and a marriage with those surnames shows in 1907 - even with one or two older brothers - it's likely that it is the right marriage.

Do you have your mum's birth cert?

Jill

Rambling

Rambling Report 21 Apr 2009 22:50

Lesley this is from the 1911 census searching for William and george



HOUSEHOLD HARVEY ALFRED WILLIAM M 1907 4 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY CHARLES WILLIAM M 1888 23 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY FREDERICK WILLIAM M 1863 48 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY WILLIAM M 1889 22 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY WILLIAM M 1853 58 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY WILLIAM M 1836 75 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY WILLIAM M 1894 17 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY WILLIAM CHARLES M 1910 1 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY WILLIAM GEORGE M 1867 44 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY WILLIAM GEORGE M 1908 3 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY WILLIAM GEORGE DANIE M 1899 12 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY WILLIAM HENRY M 1885 26 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY WILLIAM OLIVER M 1910 6 MONTHS Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY WILLIAM THOMAS M 1906 5 Bristol Gloucestershire
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY WILLIAM WOOLRICK M 1895 16 Bristol Gloucestershire

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Apr 2009 22:50

Your mum and her younger siblings:

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Harvey Alice L Justice Bristol 6a 163 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Harvey Frank E Justice Bristol 6a 114 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1918 (98%)
Harvey Doris M Justice Bristol 6a 119 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
Harvey Kenneth Justice Bristol 6a 167 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
Harvey Phyllis J Justice Bristol 6a 181 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1926 (>99%)
Harvey Raymond F Justice Bristol 6a 179 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1931 (98%)
Harvey Jeanne M Justice Bristol 6a 114 Scan available - click to view

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 21 Apr 2009 22:50

These are all the Harvey births with mother's maiden name Justice:-

Births Dec 1913
Harvey Alice L Justice Bristol 6a 163

Births Jun 1916
Harvey Frank E Justice Bristol 6a 114

Births Dec 1918
Harvey Doris M Justice Bristol 6a 119

Births Dec 1921
Harvey Kenneth Justice Bristol 6a 167

Births Jun 1924
Harvey Phyllis J Justice Bristol 6a 181

Births Sep 1926
Harvey Raymond F Justice Bristol 6a 179

Births Mar 1931
Harvey Jeanne M Justice Bristol 6a 114

It looks as though some of the children were known by their middle names.


I would say that the marriage you have already been given is going to be the correct one.

Kath. x

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 21 Apr 2009 22:52

I think the marriage you've been given here then is highly likely to be the right one as it's in the right area. If you get your Mum's birth cert as has already been suggested, it will confirm her parents names. Unless you have reason to believe that her brothers were 23 years or so older than her - seems unlikely.

Rambling

Rambling Report 21 Apr 2009 22:52

Harvey Justice births Bristol

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
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Harvey Alice L Justice Bristol 6a 163

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Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
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Harvey Frank E Justice Bristol 6a 114

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Births Dec 1918 (98%)
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Harvey Doris M Justice Bristol 6a 119

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Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
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Harvey Kenneth Justice Bristol 6a 167

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Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
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Harvey Phyllis J Justice Bristol 6a 181

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Births Sep 1926 (>99%)
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Harvey Raymond F Justice Bristol 6a 179

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Births Mar 1931 (98%)
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Harvey Jeanne M Justice Bristol 6a 114

Rambling

Rambling Report 21 Apr 2009 22:56

From the 1911 census

HARVEY, WILLIAM HENRY HEAD MARRIED M 26 COAL MINER HEWER BRISTOL SOMERSET
HARVEY, LOUISA MARY WIFE MARRIED 4 F 26 BRISTOL GLOUCESTERSHIRE
HARVEY, LILIAN ROSE DAUGHTER SINGLE F 3 BRISTOL SOMERSET
HARVEY, WILLIAM CHARLES SON SINGLE M 1 BRISTOL SOMERSET
HARVEY, GEORGE ALFRED SON SINGLE M 5 MONTHS BRISTOL SOMERSET

HARVEY WILLIAM CHARLES (RG14PN14925 RG78PN903 RD319 SD3 ED41 SN89)
Address 22 WELLINGTON ROAD BEDMINSTER DOWN BRISTOL County Gloucestershire
District Bristol Subdistrict Bedminster
Enumeration District 41 Parish

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Apr 2009 22:56

Searching on 1911 for anyone in same household as Louisa Harvey there is quite a list.

William Charles Harvey born 1910
William Henry Harvey 1885
George Alfred 1910.

Plus others - but the names fit so could be worth a look.

Jill

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Apr 2009 22:59

William:

Births Sep 1909 (>99%)
HARVEY William Charles Bristol 6a 78 Scan available - click to view

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Apr 2009 23:00

George:

Births Dec 1910 (>99%)
HARVEY George A Bristol 6a 71 Scan available - click to view

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Apr 2009 23:00

Lilian:

Births Jun 1908 (>99%)
Harvey Lilian Rose Bristol 6a 18 Scan available - click to view

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 21 Apr 2009 23:19

This looks like Louisa Mary Justice's birth:-

Name: Louisa Mary Justice
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bristol
County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 1

Kath. x

Lesley

Lesley Report 22 Apr 2009 19:44

Thanks thanks thanks to everyone of you for all of your replies. You have found my mother's family for me.
I did say that I was knew to this, and when I dsimissed the first reply it was because I was guessing that my grandmothe would have been around 20-25 when she had my mum so I worked back to her BIRTH date rather than her marriage date. I promise to try harder!!!!! And re-check my facts before I ask for help in future.