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I'm well confused now!!
See this thread were a kind person helped me with info...
http://dafgenealogy.com/index.php?showtopic=9477&st=0&#last
I have no idea where I am now!! LOL
Julie xx
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only problem Julie is you have to join to see the message board, not sure how long that will take , but will look when registered.
Rose
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That's the message on the home page of that web address.
Don't know the site myself. But someone will know.
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Sorry, didn't think of that!!! will copy and paste my messages :)
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ME
Hi all,
I am trying to trace my grandads side of the family and have reached my great great grandad William Steele born 1829 possibly in Scotland
Buried in Preston 24/05/1902
Thats all the info I have on him personally but his son Joseph Ignatius Steele I can trace furher - born early 1864 in Preston (I have ordered a birth certificate) married 22 May 1890 to Catherine Hunt.Died in Preston 09/02/1941
Can anybody help me at all?? i'm drawing a blank on Williams wife so far who may have come from Dublin, Ireland .
Thanks for any help,
Julie xx
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I can see Joseph as Nephew to the Andertons in 71 and 81, so I had a look and found this..
Marriages Jun 1863
ANDERTON Ellen Preston 8e 641
STEEL William Preston 8e 641
Deaths Sep 1869
Steel Ellen 31 Preston 8e 299
1871 England Census
Name: William Steel
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Barrow, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 50
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 238
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bland 40
Mary Bland 34
Jane A Bland 6
William Steel 42
He was listed as WIDOW
What do you think?
ME
oooh thats interesting - I thought he must be widowed.
The name Ellen fits too as Josephs daughter was called Mary Ellen.
Thank you
Julie
so am I correct in thinking Betty Anderton ( who lived with Edward and Mary) could be my great great great grandma?? she is listed as mother-in-law I think??
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Their age doesnt tally up...
Edward was listed as aged 57 whilst Betty as mother in law aged 67. I can see Betty b 1804 in 41 and 51 census with husband, Joseph. I'm not sure if enumerator made a mistake or something. But I'm not sure as they gave their age the same in each census
1841 Betty 1804
1851 Betty 1804
1861 Betty 1804
1861 Edward 1814
1871 Edward 1814
You'd need to get Edward's marriage cert and get the father, then find him with father in earlier census (that is if the marriage was taken place after 41 or 51 census).
ME
Well I have just received Josephs birth certificate and Ellen is definitely his mother biggrin.gif
Thanks for the info you have found, I will have to order the marriage certificate next.
Thanks,
Julie x
I have just traced Edwardin the 1841 and came up with the following, but it doesn't really make much sense to me
1841 census transcription details for: Eccles Or Withy Trees Factory, Blackburn, Walton Le Dale
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 504 Book/Folio: 14/47 Page: 16
Reg. District: Preston Sub District: Walton Le Dale
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Blackburn City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Eccles Or Withy Trees Factory, Blackburn, Walton Le Dale
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation, Where Born
ANDERTON, Edwd M 25 1816 Lancashire
ANDERTON, Ann F 25 1816 Lancashire
ANDERTON, Ellen F 4 1837 Lancashire
ANDERTON, Wm M 2 1839 Lancashire
are these all siblings do you think?
Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
REPLY
How about this..?
1841 England Census
Name: Ellen Anderton
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Preston
Hundred: Amounderness
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
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Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Preston
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Anderton 28
Betty Anderton 37
Ellen Anderton 3
John Anderton 1
All born in County
1851 England Census
Name: Ellen Anderton
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Betty
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Walton Le Dale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 148
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Anderton 34
Betty Anderton 40
Ellen Anderton 14
John Anderton 13
All born Preston
OK.. This may not help now..
Another possible
1851 England Census
Name: Ellen Anderton
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View Image
Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2mm
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 105
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Anderton 49
Elizabeth Anderton 49
Christopher Anderton 27
Ann Anderton 25
Margret Anderton 23
John Anderton 17
Ellen Anderton 15
Jane Anderton 12
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I'm just soooo confused now!!
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OK Let's unconfuse you. Now I am not an expert on this but I know what works for me. You need to sort your information.
I make up family trees in an exercise book. Pick a person as a starting point, then add parents, dates, info. Use a pencil so you can erase as you go.
If you are entering data onto computer the written pages will give you an organised cheat sheet to start your data entry.
It is a bit more work but I find it helps to be able to see the relationship between the different people, and to make certain that the dates of birth and death are relevant and not out of whack.
If you have missing bits of info you can then source certificates to fill in the gaps.
You have some work to do going by the information you have. Good luck. It doesn't take long once you get sorted.
Sorry forgot. Print Off your information from this thread. Don't try to do it looking at the screen. You will get a crick in your neck to start with. Print it off, just highlight, cut and paste which you know how to do, put it into word doc and print it. Then cross things off the copy as you add them to your family tree.
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Thank you, I will try that and see if it makes anymore sense :)
It's the dates and ages that keep changing that have me confused!!
Julie xx
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As an aside and if anyone is interested that is a good site, started by an ex GR member a couple of years back.
Ann
Glos
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