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I know that verdict is not what was hoped for or expected - although perhaps it is what was expected. But let us all hope that this woman will never, ever be allowed to work with vulnerable people again.

Thank you Jac, the two old ladies have very severe dementia and my heart aches at thinking how they must have felt, one lady is ever so fragile and always wants a cuddle when i visit my Mum and asks me' where am I love can you help me. '

I too am lost for words - well, ones that can be repeated on here.

Absolutely appallingly light sentence and fine for an absolutely dispicible crime.

Thanks for the update - not much closure on the incident for you is there, apart from the knowledge that your mum was not involved. What must the relatives of those poor old girls who were abused think?

I despair at times at this country's so called justice system.


Jac xxx

Nudge

Thank you ladies will keep you updated.

One thing that i can say is that the majority of carers do the job because they do care but like all areas of life some will let the side down.

This particular person has been doing this kind of work for over 20 years.

Thanks again

Frances

Frances, that is appalling.... but I am pleased that your mum was not one of the poor ladies who was bullied by this thug.

Cassandra, I don't think working hard in a nursing or residential home.... night or day... is easy money for care staff, who generally are amongst the lowest paid workers in the country... minimum wages or slightly above for all bar the qualified nurses in the nursing homes.

And the level of vetting is almost the same as that for people going to work in our schools and childcare places..... there will always be bullies who slip through the net.

I spent many years working with the disabled and also with the elderly..... and the vast majority of the carers I had the privilege of working with absolutely loved the clients...... they went above and beyond the call of duty, very often.

Love

Daff xxxx

Frances, with respect how could anyone find this offensive? Thank you for letting us know about this moronic piece of humanity.

I, too, hope you'll keep us updated on developments. Those poor people; it's sickening.
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Hi - just seen your update. At least you have the comfort of knowing that your mum was not one of the residents involved with the incidents that were reported, so I hope you are feeling more at ease now with the situation.

I can understand that the Manager couldnt talk freely to you, as your mum wasnt involved, and as he only started in Jan.2009 then I guess he hasn't all the facts to his fingertips.

What does surprise me though is the length of time it has taken for the situation to become public knowledge and for the relatives of other residents to have to find it out via. the press is absolutely appalling in my opinion.

You will of course be at the meeting in 2 weeks time, so I guess you can really let rip (if that's your way of doing things - it is mine, I'm afraid).

One thing is clear though, there wont be any further trouble of this kind in that home I'm sure and I hope that the ladies who were the victims of the bully are now receiving the level of care and attention that they richly deserve (and for which they, or their relatives) are paying.

Please let us know what happens at the meeting - I am really interested.

Jac xxx

Hello everyone

Just a quick update on things, saw the manager at the Residential Home today and he said they are making arrangements for a meeting with all relatives etc. of residents after sentence is passed by the courts in two weeks time. Although he annoyed me no end until I had a go at him by saying this happened in November 2008 and they've had no problems since, he only joined as manager in January 2009 and claimed he wasn't in a position to talk freely except to the residents relatives concerned.

Will see what the outcome is then, it seems a rep. from CSCI and Social Services will also be present.

Thank you again for your support.

Frances

That is awful but well done tothe other carer for blowing whistle on her.

I so admire people that can do that sort of work.

Hope you got answers you wanted

I too dont find your post offensive.

what I find offensive is the person who did this to a a weak old lady,its disgusting.

I hope you find everything is ok .
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I'm hoping this is just one bad apple and the rest of the staff are as horrified as we are.

Frances

I know you read of these kind of things happening, but I am so very shocked. I do not find your entry offensive at all.

I do hope you manage to sort things out - please let us know.
Take care.

Love & cuddles to you and your Mum
Steph xxx

Thank you Jac, will do.

Frances

Once you have been to see for yourself how you mum is, and how she is being cared for you will feel much better:

I do hope that tomorrow brings you peace of mind - it must be very difficult for you and I really feel for the old and frail who cannot defend themselves against what is tantamount as bullying and cruelty. No excuses for that sort of behaviour ever, and particularly against those who are coming to the end of their lives and who deserve respect, care and affection.

I shall be thinking of you tomorrow. Please let us know how you get on.

Jac xxx

Thank you for all your replies, the more I'm sat thinking of this the more upset and angry I'm getting. I just wish that I could fetch her home and look after her myself but that is just impossible.

I feel like staying with her every night and caring for her she's so frail I don't know what to do or think at the moment.

The day staff (that I now about) have always been considerate and kind when we've visited but gosh my head is all over the place.

So glad I can share this with you all.

Frances

I dont find your post offensive in the least - what I find offensive and beyond comprehension is that a so called "carer" could have done this in the first place, and secondly that a colleague only blew the whistle because she/he had apparently seen signs of abuse earlier. Why wasnt the first incident reported and something done?

You do need to find out the precise circumstances - I cannot believe it was your mum otherwise I think you would have been notified by now - however it was some one's mum/gran/aunty/sister etc and it is despicible that old folk are treated in this manner. I hope that you get some answers and your mind is put at rest.

Jac xxx

Sadly this sort of thing goes on and I know of a care home that is being investigated and my mum has seen some thing that she just did not expect to see and reported it straight away.

Many years ago I worked in a care home and our residents received 100% kindness and total care. Our Matron would not even tolerate a dirty towel being placed on the floor after washing and drying a resident. It had to go straight into a linen bin. The amount of money some people pay for care is shocking! I would hate to think my parents or any one I knew was being mistreated. Mind you I will always remember a sister that worked there and she was horrible to us younger girls and in the end I left because of her and the fact that I couldn't handle the passing of residents (I was only 17/18 at the time so a good few years back lol) Found out a few years later that she had been sacked as she was an alcoholic and drinking all the residents sherry and whisky and topping it up with water! She crashed into the wall whilst parking her car and thats how they found out!

Good luck tomorrow Frances and if the people in charge are any good they will tell you exactly what has gone on and how it has been dealt with

Marcelle

Frances, how awful. How can anyone do this to another human being? I do hope your mum is ok, and hasn't bee subjected to this person's 'care' at any time.

UPDATE

As promised the outcome re the careworker who abused two residents where my Mum is (Mum not involved) was given 18 weeks suspended prison sentence at court yesterday, she was also ordered to pay £100 pound compensation to each of the ladies abused.

I'm frankly lost for words.





My niece phoned me at lunch time to say that a 'carer' in the residential home my mum is in has been found guilty of cruelty to two of the elderly residents. It seems she went into one ladies room at night who had messed her bed and whilst trying to clean her used a nail brush on her hands and because the lady started crying she pushed the brush into her face and forced it into her mouth. She also roughed her up before leaving the room, another carer blew the whistle on her because earlier in the week she was seen pushing another resident into the wall because she was stood in her way.

I've got an appointment with the manager tomorrow because I think I need to know who the ladies were that had been ill treated it doesn't say in the local paper my niece read, I've not seen it because I live in a different area but i'm so incensed and upset that my mum could have been at the hands of this horrible person.

I will delete if anybody finds this offensive.

Frances