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Or did everybody else get this? two copies of it, in fact.

No, not by email -- right here in my inbox by PM!

Those 419 scammers are even spending money to get us, now - but I guess it seemed like the cost of a 6-month subscription here was worth the access to any silly people who might be hanging around.

Please, any silly people in the vicinity - do not read that PM. ;)


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Chendi Okenga
Abidjan Cote d4ivoire
West Africa
Please reply me through my private email address:([email protected])

Letter Of Relationship and Establishment of aid
Good day,

Permit me to inform you of our desire of going into business relationship with you. I am quite aware that my message will come to you as a surprise because it is indeed very strange for someone you have not met before to contact you in this regard.

l am Chendi Okenga, the only child of late Chief and Mrs Benjamin Okenga, My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Abidjan here, the economic capital of Ivory Coast, he was poisoned to death by his business associates on one of their business meeting. My mother died on the 20th January 1988 and my father took me so special because l am motherless.

Before the death of my father on 29th April 2009 in a private hospital here in Abidjan, he secretly called me at his bedside,when I sat down to listen to him, he started crying, why? (1) He complained that I am too young to be managing my life with no one to take care of me,(2)That I have not finished my university education as he planned for me, he revealed to me that he has a sum of US$7,500.000.(SEVEN MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS) he left in security firm here in Abidjan, that he used my name as the only child for his next of kin in deposit of the funds.

He also explained to me that it was because of this wealth that he was poisioned by his business associates , that l should seek for a GOD fearing foreign partner in a country of my choice where l will transfer this money and use it for proper investment purpose ,that I must finish my university education by the help of a business partner abroad,that he or she should help me obtain a resident permit in his or her country.

Please, I am now ready to do all these since my father my bread winner is no more. l am honourable seeking your assistance in the following ways.

(1) To serve as my guardian in your country while I will depend on your expert advise since l am only 22 years.
(2) To make arrangement for me to come over to your country in order to further my university education and to secure a residential permit for me in your country.

Moreover, l am willing to offer you 15% of the total sum as compensation for your assistance in the transfer of this fund to your country. Furthermore, you can indicate your option towards assisting me as l believed that this project would be concluded within seven days you signify interest to assist me by standing by me as my foreign trustee / guardian.

Hoping to hear from you soon. May God bless you as you as you extend your helping hand to an orphan.

Best wishes
Chendi Okenga.
Please reply me through my private email address:([email protected])

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Email I sent to GR just now:


I no longer see a link in my inbox for reporting an abusive private message.

The message is copied below. As I was posting a warning on the "Chat" discussion board, a new member was posting a query about this:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1168278

It seems some people aren't aware of 419 scams!

In case no one else has done so, I wanted to bring this to your attention so that the account of this "member" can be cancelled immediately, to deter this abuse, hopefully.

>>>>> The question does remain of how someone seems to have managed to use this site for bulk mailing - ?

The text of the message follows (I received two copies).

Thank you.

They're called "419 scammers" because the emails almost always come from Nigeria, and 419 is the fraud section of the Nigerian penal code.

The real advice is to send the emails you get to your local police, who will have a section for dealing with these. It's useful for them to know what's turning up in their area.


But if you want to have some fun, there's fun to be had ...


http://www.419eater.com/

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Welcome to the world of Scambaiting!

Does somebody want to transfer millions of dollars into your account?
Does someone want you pay you to cash cheques and send them the money?
Met a new friend/penpal on a friendship/dating site who's asking you for money?
Has a dying person contacted you wanting your help to give his money to charity?
Have you sold an item and are asked to accept a payment larger than the item amount?

IT'S A SCAM!

Don't fall for common scams like this - fight them!

So what is scambaiting? Well, put simply, you enter into a dialogue with scammers, simply to waste their time and resources. Whilst you are doing this, you will be helping to keep the scammers away from real potential victims and screwing around with the minds of deserving thieves.

It doesn't matter if you are new to this sport or a hardened veteran; if you are wasting the time of a scammer, or frustrating them in any way well that's good enough for us, and we would welcome you to join with our now very large community.

Although this site concentrates mainly on the Nigerian 419 scam, we are happy to deal with other types of scams if and when the opportunity arises. We also have a large team of experts dedicated to the removal and closure of fake scammer banks and sites.

Even if you are a newcomer, much fun can be had and at the same time you will be doing a public service. If you are new to this game and need to know what scambaiting is all about, please click on the 419 FAQ link at the top of the page. See also Baiting Tips for information on getting started on this great cyber-sport :D

We encourage everyone to contribute to this site and the good cause of scambaiting by joining in the fun on the FORUM where you can meet new friends and seek expert help, tips and advice on anti-scamming. User participation is absolutely encouraged. Please help us to raise awareness the world over!

Do not be fooled into thinking scammers operate from a specific part of the world. Advance fee fraud scammers are a world-wide menace, and they operate from every continent. These scammers range from small one-man-band criminals scamming a few thousand dollars a year, to highly organised groups raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars a month.

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http://www.419eater.com/html/419faq.htm

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4-1-9 Schemes frequently use the following tactics:

* An individual or company receives a letter or fax from an alleged "official" representing a foreign government or agency.
* An offer is made to transfer millions of dollars in "over invoiced contract" funds into your personal bank account.
* You are encouraged to travel overseas to complete the transaction.
* You are requested to provide blank company letterhead forms, banking account information, telephone/fax numbers.
* You receive numerous documents with official looking stamps, seals and logo testifying to the authenticity of the proposal.
* Eventually you must provide up-front or advance fees for various taxes, attorney fees, transaction fees or bribes.
* Other forms of 4-1-9 schemes include: c.o.d. of goods or services, real estate ventures, purchases of crude oil at reduced prices, beneficiary of a will, recipient of an award and paper currency conversion.

Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud Overview

The perpetrators of Advance Fee Fraud (AFF), known internationally as "4-1-9" fraud after the section of the Nigerian penal code which addresses fraud schemes, are often very creative and innovative.

Unfortunately, there is a perception that no one is prone to enter into such an obviously suspicious relationship. However, a large number of victims are enticed into believing they have been singled out from the masses to share in multi-million dollar windfall profits for doing absolutely nothing. It is also a misconception that the victim's bank account is requested so the culprit can plunder it -- this is not the primary reason for the account request -- merely a signal they have hooked another victim.

* In almost every case there is a sense of urgency.
* The victim is enticed to travel to Nigeria or a border country.
* There are many forged official looking documents.
* Most of the correspondence is handled by fax or through the mail.
* Blank letterheads and invoices are requested from the victim along with the banking particulars.
* Any number of Nigerian fees are requested for processing the transaction with each fee purported to be the last required.
* The confidential nature of the transaction is emphasized.
* There are usually claims of strong ties to Nigerian officials.
* A Nigerian residing in the U.S., London or other foreign venue may claim to be a clearing house bank for the Central Bank of Nigeria.
* Offices in legitimate government buildings appear to have been used by impostors posing as the real occupants or officials.

The most common forms of these fraudulent business proposals fall into the following main categories:

* Disbursement of money from wills
* Contract fraud (C.O.D. of goods or services)
* Purchase of real estate
* Conversion of hard currency
* Transfer of funds from over invoiced contracts
* Sale of crude oil at below market prices

... The goal of the criminal is to delude the target into thinking that he is being drawn into a very lucrative, albeit questionable, arrangement. The intended victim must be reassured and confident of the potential success of the deal. He will become the primary supporter of the scheme and willingly contribute a large amount of money when the deal is threatened. The term "when" is used because the con-within-the-con is the scheme will be threatened in order to persuade the victim to provide a large sum of money to save the venture.

The letter, while appearing transparent and even ridiculous to most, unfortunately is growing in its effectiveness. It sets the stage and is the opening round of a two-layered scheme or scheme within a scheme. The fraudster will eventually reach someone who, while sceptical, desperately wants the deal to be genuine. ...

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Some of us must indeed be special. ;)

Am I still in the lead with two of the blamed things??

Thanks for the warning

Just checked my inbox and so far I haven't received this message. I do know someone who lives not too far away from me who last year sent 30.00- pounds, yes 30.000 to one of these scams and then received a request for another 30.000. !!
As far as I know he really believed that it was a genuine request and wanted to help. Needless to say he never heard from them after he said he couldn,t send more money.

|Bridget

Got a PM from Chendi, with nothing else on it. He obviously knew I was broke and not worth bothering with! lol

Yes; so yet more instability in the site.

Interesting....

What's the membership number?

Click on their name in your Inbox. Then, on the "Inbox- Received Message" page, click on their name again. The membership number will be the number at the end of the URL.

Rose

Oh, I remember reading one of the funniest things ever on that Scam Busting site. The Scammer being scammed........a very long read but worth it, it was sooooo funny! lol

Anyone with a hour or so to spare and wants a good laugh, go and have a read :-))

Mary

Thanks for putting this on here Janey

The sensible people on here will report any such message or just ignore the message anyway, knowing full well its a scam, and that you don't get something from nothing.

Unfortunately there will be a few who believe anything they read however unconnected to them and outrageous it may seem. Be taken in and think its real. & they have to be protected not from the scammers...but from themselves :o))))

Morning,

Just loggod on.

Same as BC, blank, maybe GR are awake and have deleted them.

Have to run,

Chat later.

Lindy ;))

My daughter used to work in a branch of Barclays bank. Every week an old lady went in sending money abroad. The staff worried, and told the manager who came out to talk to this lady, and explain the fraud it was. She wouldn't listen and sent thousands out of her bank account. What a shame she wouldn't listen. She was convinced she would be getting a lot more money back.

To put peoples minds at rest, I doubt for a minute that GR has a hacker. All it costs is a tenner for 6 months to be able to pm as many people as you want to via the site.

All it needs is one gullible person to take them up on it and their tenner is repaid a million times over

Just think of all those who may have been sent this who dont use the boards, or even look in. The odds are high that someone will fall for it before it reaches someone / people who will either ignore it and let the scam go on for a few more hours, or will do the right thing & report it to stop it going any further within the site on that account.

Since both Janey and Roy have reported it to GR and one of them said that their PM was no longer there - I would say that GR are already onto it. They only need to put a stop to the perpetrator, and all the messages sent by that person will be deleted.

Believe it or not I had the same letter from the same person about 4 years ago,she is busy isnt she:-))lol

Anyone can copy n paste that letter, at any time and send it on to anywhere......just to make a nuisance,?
you would need an original though, I see that Janey?? has edited out the email address ......
Bob

Hi Shelly,
If GR delete an account or messages sent. They are only deleted from GRs data base.
GR can't delete the notification messages that have already been sent to you & sitting in you Inbox. But when you try to open the link, you won't be able to open the message .

If you didn't receive a notification message from GR. Then one wasn't sent to you. I didn't get one either.

Steve.