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Can someone with access to the London PRs

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Janet 693215

Janet 693215 Report 29 Sep 2009 22:48

B****r I've spent all evening doing this! Why didn't committ come up when I googled it?

Never mind, its always fun doing a bit of social history research.

Janet 693215

Janet 693215 Report 29 Sep 2009 22:44

Why is it I can decipher all the others! I've looked on antiquus morbus and come up with nothing!

Right, lets try lateral thinking. What were the most common causes of death? Well on that page there are 3 cases of consumption, 2 ague (flu), ! fissick (?), 4 smallpox, 1 fever and 1 mortified!

Whatever the cause is, it affected both male and female.

In those crowded areas of London common causes would have been

TB. Typhus, Measles, childbirth, cancer, age related, teething, colds, smallpox, whooping cough, chickenpox etc

It seems that the average life expecctancy for someone born 1725-1750 was 32.4 lower than those born between 1700-1724 36.4

Found a page relating to causes of death in London 1735

http://www.thornber.net/medicine/html/mortality2.html

Now this relates to inner London but I would imagine that there wouldn't be that great a discrepency between St Dunstans are and London. So it looks like the term could be another name for convulsion.

All the deaths with that cause appear to be children as they are the son or daughter of. So looks like it could be febrile convulsions which can be caused by fever, malnutrition, gastro enteritis, inanition etc

Sue

Sue Report 29 Sep 2009 21:50

OK, OK by 1736 they spelt it convul

*hides in corner and sucks thumb*

x

LittleWhiteDove2022351

LittleWhiteDove2022351 Report 29 Sep 2009 21:44

Committ? erm I reckon Gwyn we all will be some time in the future as we're driving ourselves barmy trying to read all the old records..Committed to the nearest nut house.. oh maybe not.. they pulled them all down! lol

LittleWhiteDove2022351

LittleWhiteDove2022351 Report 29 Sep 2009 21:41

LOL Sue... :)))

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 29 Sep 2009 21:41

I haven't checked each and every record with that same word at the end, but it seems to be for children, or at least where s. or...d.. is mentioned in the wording....

EDIT
Sorry, slow posting as had phone call during writing above.
I thought it looked more like committ....?

Gwyn

LittleWhiteDove2022351

LittleWhiteDove2022351 Report 29 Sep 2009 21:41

I know what. god help any body in the furure if they try to decipher all my notes on my family tree----even I can't read them and I scrawled them!
and as for my abbreviations well---no bloody chance... pmsl

Sue

Sue Report 29 Sep 2009 21:39

Well I ain't eating humble pie 'cos you don't spell convulsions with a double l.......rofl

Uggers

Uggers Report 29 Sep 2009 21:32

Ah, really clear writing here -

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1624&path=Tower+Hamlets.Saint+Dunstan+and+All+Saints.1734-1736.5&sid=&gskw=&cr=1

It's convull

Uggers

Uggers Report 29 Sep 2009 21:29

Oh.

Really clear on this page -

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1624&path=Tower+Hamlets.Saint+Dunstan+and+All+Saints.1734-1736.2&sid=&gskw=&cr=1

Often seems to apply to children and it isn't the word convulsions, whether or not that's what it represents..

Uggers

Uggers Report 29 Sep 2009 21:27

It does appear quite frequently next to deaths with ages as well

Thanks Blue Moon:)

LittleWhiteDove2022351

LittleWhiteDove2022351 Report 29 Sep 2009 21:27

Hi Sue M..
I used to think it was wrong too then I asked at Family History Society and the general consensus there was That because people got so ill with one thing and another and no medicines or anti biotics they would get such high temperatures,have many convulsions and die.
That answer stopped me driving myself round the bend anyway! LOL

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256 Report 29 Sep 2009 21:25

that's what bothers me too Sue, why so many with that written next to it when all the others are quite easily decipherable as Dropsy, Smallpox, Broken Leg etc etc - I can't think of anything common enough to be such a frequent cause of death, except where he maybe wasn't told or was told to mind his own business lol
Maz. XX

Sue

Sue Report 29 Sep 2009 21:20

Going to disagree with the convulsions...lol

Why does it appear in 99% of those entries where the age isn't known. Could it be they were already deceased before receiving any medical attention, therefore definite history not known?

It's going to drive me mad now.

x

Blue Moon

Blue Moon Report 29 Sep 2009 21:16

It wont help you now but while I was looking for your Martha Cannell's cause of death I came across this,it makes intresting reading.

London Causes of Death in 1700

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1277381

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256 Report 29 Sep 2009 21:14

ok I've looked at your page and at Sue's page. definitely starts with a C, ends with either tt or lt. the middle looks like onn or om, but I can't work out what any of those combinations could mean! it probably is something like "dunno" maybe in latin or summat, but apart from guessing that, I "dunno" either :-)
xxxxxxxxxxx

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Sep 2009 21:14

just looked , I think it's convulsions also
xx

Uggers

Uggers Report 29 Sep 2009 21:09

Thanks Janet - i didn't know that:)

Thanks Sue and Tricia, I think it must be convulsions - it begins co and it isn't consumption and as you say Tricia, convulsions is most likely

LittleWhiteDove2022351

LittleWhiteDove2022351 Report 29 Sep 2009 21:00

Hi Uggs
I think it's convulsion... Was told told at FHS that they were so ill and often had high temperatures leading to convulsions that killed them..
Tricia

Sue

Sue Report 29 Sep 2009 20:34

Whatever that word is ?????? am I right in seeing that it appears when someone's age isn't stated? I have looked at other records to check.

Sue

look at this one:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1624&path=Tower+Hamlets.Saint+Dunstan+and+All+Saints.1733-1734.6