General Chat

Family and friends Yes, But there are a few on here that I would gladly help with or without a request.**M**

I am totally with Uggers with what he said.

GPs hasten death with morphine every day and a damn good thing too. I am completely in favour of people who choose to end their own lives being able to do so with the support of the medical services and their loved ones.

kay ive pmd you xx

use of di-morphine within *guidelines* over a few days,,,,,has the same effect,,,,,this is the cocktail given to cancer patients,it shuts organs down and weakens the heart eventually causing it to fail.
why isnt this classed as -------assisted,!!!

I see a need to hasten.....different circumstances would need lots of carefull medical input.

I would probably do it in some circumstances. When the persons life can no longer give them freedom from pain and no interest in life, then it is cruelty to keep on giving them treatment to keep them breathing.

definatly agree.animals ar.nt left to suffer ,why should humans be left to.

yes, i have asked specky he said he couldnt, i would never force the issue and if there was a risk off prison for him then no
if he asked me when there was nothing could be done for him and his life was hell yes i would and take prison as it came
i also understand some could take advantage , well they should be treated as murders, it must be sorted so careful and fool proof, its working else where it could work here . xx

if you let your pet suffer you can be prosecuted

but we are allowed to let our loved ones suffer

there is something just not right

It's different Rose.Thats all can say.But I know what you mean.

When my mum was dying, i would have taken the option of hastening it if that had been possible. the line from King Lear is the way I looked at it
"O, let him pass! he hates him much that would upon the rack of this tough world. stretch him out longer."

I have done it for animals i love, how could I not do as much for people I love?

My Mum had Dementia ,and one day asked me in the lift in Debenhams ...Would I help her die!! The lift was full ,and a deathly silence came waiting for my reply.All I could say was I would love to help her but I could be sent to prison.Her reply was 'Thats ok ,I won't be here'.
I know Mum had had enough and did not want to carry on.I would like to think I could have had the strength to help her.My Dad had Motor Neurone Disease back in the 80's.If I had known about Dignitas then and he had wanted I would have taken him there.

I think when you have seen someone go through a serious life threatening illness, ie a terminal one, and you can see the cards are on the table so to speak...............and you see them in pain,,,,,,,,,,,,believe me, putting them out of their misery is a thought that comes very clearly. ...Unless you've been there with someone,,,,,,,,,,,,,you dont know...

I can understand why the law is like it is because there will always be someone who will use it to their advantage, so it would need for a certain number of people to be involved - not just a beneficiary and perhaps a doctor/solicitor, etc. If this can be resolved, I certainly do agree with euthanasia. I would like to think that if I am ever in the situation where it is utterly hopeless and a lot of pain is involved, I should be able to make the choice without placing loved ones in trouble with either the law or their consciences.

TW...As long as my loved one was of sound mind and I was convinced they had had enough....AND had medical assurance that all that could be done had been I would do the same for them as I would for my pets. Love is love after all. I'd see it as the final gift of love.

It needs lots of safeguards though x

Yes - provided the person involved is able to give their own consent prior to reaching a physically debilitating condition for a terminal illness....... through a panel of medical experts who can assess their mental and physical heath.

MND is a wicked diesease - I have seen it strike a relative.

Eventually you whole body closes down and you are trapped in your body unable to move with an active mind. Most die when their lungs fail or they choke.

Why should people be denied a dignified death - when they care so much for the family they are leaving behind.

I may have said no a few months ago, but seeing my mum in pain and wasting away I am saying yes to both.

I'm with Muffy -- and yes, it's possible to have public safeguards to make sure that people aren't being "assisted" to die by other people whose eyes are on their inheritance. ;)

Requiring that a doctor be involved is one way to do that -- or better, two doctors.


http://www.assistedsuicide.org/suicide_laws.html

The only four places that today openly and legally, authorize active assistance in dying of patients, are:

1. Oregon (since l997, physician-assisted suicide only);
2. Switzerland (1941, physician and non-physician assisted suicide only);
3. Belgium (2002, permits 'euthanasia' but does not define the method;
4. Netherlands (voluntary euthanasia and physician-assisted suicide lawful since April 2002 but permitted by the courts since l984).

Two doctors must be involved in Oregon, Belgium, and the Netherlands, plus a psychologist if there are doubts about the patient's competency. But that is not stipulated in Switzerland, although at least one doctor usually is because the right-to-die societies insist on medical certification of a hopeless or terminal condition before handing out the lethal drugs.

The Netherlands permits voluntary euthanasia as well as physician-assisted suicide, while both Oregon and Switzerland bar death by injection.

Dutch law enforcement will crack down on any non-physician assisted suicide they find, recently sentencing an old man to six months imprisonment for helping a sick, old woman to die.

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("Voluntary euthanasia" would be when the person wants to die but doesn't have the ability to use the means to end their life themself, even with assistance, and needs someone else to do it.)

Rose yes thats right you have to get there on your own.
I suppose there is alway's doubt as to ' Is there really no more that can be done' to think about.


Marion

uch what a topic,

yes I do and as hard as it would be I hope yes to the second question