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I kept mine on too Gwynne. Oh, and LD clubs make my feminist hackles rise too.

I don't think they will keep streets clean as such. If I'm interpreting what you said rightly Uzzi then LD clubs will not keep the streets free from prostitution.

I do wonder just how many of these men who frequent these clubs would be happy to walk into one and see their wife/partner/daughter/sister dancing in one.

Sorry, Rose, I'm going to have to agree with you about the degrading of women. Maybe not as much as say porn movies but dancing half naked for cash is, to me, degrading.

I'm not particularly repressed either.

Needless to say I agree with Gwynne.

Marion,
aren't there any frustrated dirty old women then.?
It's always dirty old men.
Dont women drool over the men at hen nights.?
do me a favour....lol
Men are probably more open and honest about it..
I am with Eldrick on this, I cant see anything wrong in either sex working in these kind of entertainment places.

lol Rose

actually, i wouldn't go to see male strippers either.. :))

I find it as unedifying to watch frustrated women ogling as i do to find frustrated men ogling... ;)

if you're not going to take it further I don't see much point...it's like having a cream cake in the fridge and just sitting and looking at it LOL

xx

I kept mine on too Gwynne :))

I was giving my opinion and could say more but I will 'bite my tongue on this'
I'm sure some will know where I am coming from.

Marion

When I danced in discos I kept my top on, Uzzi.

Gwynne

Also that in top clubs the dancers do not perform "sex" they just dance a bit like pans people used to do, but for extra money they dance for you.
hey whats wrong with that. We all did it at the disco's when single and that nice chap we would like to catch the eye of was there.

Just another take on it ...

Marion " As for the males at hen partys that is just a laugh to most woman...well the ones I know anyway. lol"
to you maybe but not to all and strange as it may seem some men are like that also ..they can do the male night out.

Do we think that the likes of male strippers or the Full Monty are funny and amusing a good night out or are they degrading their sex?

Definately 2 sides to a discussion here?

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I see no difference between a lap dancing show to a hen night where there are male strippers.

That was my reasons for allowing my OH to go if it was a mens night.

It's just the repressed society that we live in, a throwback to the Victorian era. The more frowned upon something is, the more people will want to do it and in turn the more people will act in disgust. I can't see anything wrong in a woman working in a lapdance club. If men want to part with their dosh, so be it.

Bring back the Romans! They knew how to party!

I think men get more of a 'kick' out of it though....for lack of a better word lol

Lots of men go to LTClubs for a laugh though.lots of male strippers who do girls nights are often married....should their families feel disgust that women are prepared to pay to oggle family members?

Look how women went bonkers over the Chippendales and groups like them......aint that a bit off why women would want to go see a man strip and wiggle his all about??

I would hate it if any of my family or friends were lapdancers. Having dirty old frustrated men ogleing them.

It makes me squirm to see men drooling over something they cant get.

As for the males at hen partys that is just a laugh to most woman...well the ones I know anyway. lol

Its only the none goers that see it as degrading to women,and only such as mens sexual desires that there are these clubs in the first place.

They the gilrs are like some legal **parlours ** in a safe enviroment.so little difference.

There was a big cry a few years ago when thise poor girls from Suffolk were killed to make prostituion legal ,as if they had been working in a safe place instead of street walking they wouldnt have been killed....same difference...

To the girls its *just a job*

I have been to girls mens strips nights,,,,,is that women exploiting men>??.

My OH wouldnt go as it wouldnt appeal,but wouldnt have a problem if he did.

I could probably argue both ways on this... lol I always can.

But from a 'you can look but you can't touch' perspective, I imagine they are less of a danger to relationships than 'sex texts' and 'cyber relationships' where the danger of it becoming 'real' is much more likely.

I don't think it particularly degrades women, perhaps even less so than some other 'accepted' medium...pornographic mags/ internet sites / tv

women will always be 'objectified' by some men... irrespective of whether those women are lap dancers or the wife....

I think lap dancing clubs and the like are less likely to be what an 'aggressive' man is into anyway... rape is more about power than it is sex, and they certainly have no power in that situation so long as security is tight and the girls know what they are doing from a personal safety perspective.

I see no difference between a lap dancing show to a hen night where there are male strippers.

They make my feminist hackles rise, Cat.

I hope no young woman I care about would ever feel desperate enough to work in one. There's a word for women who sell sex and it isn't a nice one.

I doubt my oh would ever be sad enough to go to one. I just asked him and he said he may be newly retired but he's not a dirty old man yet.

Many women who work in the sex industry say they do it because the money is easy but as they get older and have children they often feel ashamed of their past. It can also make them lose all respect for men.

I can't say I have much respect for the sort of men who go to such places.


Gwynne

My views are totally nonsensical on this one.

I personally have no problem with lapdancers....each to their own.

I would absolutely HATE for one of my daughters to do it though..

And I wouldn't have a problem with my OH going to one either as long as it was on a boys night out ..was on a look don't touch basis...and he was honest with me about it...

**have to add...as far as I'm aware he hasn't ever been to one..

xx

Firstly I would NOT turn a female away from being a friend because she was a lap dancer. Each to their own.

Yes I do agree with them if they help keep the streets clean and they are run correctly.

How would I feel if my OH went to one ..lol If it was a boys night out why not I do Ann Summers partys .. if it was behind my back then I would have to re-think my relationship and ask what is wrong. Just because they look it doesn't mean they will touch or pay.

Would I go to one ...well not unless there was some hunky males up there dancing ....I certainly wouldn't go for what was in the audience as I have an OH

Do I think they degrade women ... hell have you seen how fit they have to be to dance? so no they are just another means of earning a wage.