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Cooper

Cooper Report 2 Aug 2010 20:44

Off to watch the end of the gaget show then how do you think you are.
It will be of intrest where they go to get Irish records so I will have pen and pad to hand.
After that it is the excellent Rev at 10pm. Its funny(not in a laugh out loud way) but well worth watching.

Teresa

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 2 Aug 2010 21:56

poor Henry Karn

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~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 2 Aug 2010 22:04

I thought it was a great episode. It seemed to tell so much about both sides of her family. She came across as very bright and sensitive. I'm looking forward to her husband's episode too.

TessAkaBridgetTheFidget

TessAkaBridgetTheFidget Report 2 Aug 2010 22:26


So much better than last week. At least Dervla was switched on, and if she didn't know something was quick enough to ask for an explanation.

I felt sorry for Henry Kahn too. Let down by the British Justice System.

I wantd to know who Esther Marks was, (the lady whose windows were broken)
If I can't sleep tonight perhaps I will try to find her on the 1901 Census for Ireland.
I just wondered if there was a family connection??

Tess

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 2 Aug 2010 23:03

one of my family had to go to court in the 1800s
and was fined 4p for not marking his pig

he also got fined 6p for
not attending church for 4 weeks
but i think it was the parish council fined him the 6p

Cooper

Cooper Report 3 Aug 2010 15:59

It was very good, My late dad was born in 1920 in Southern Ireland and I did not know much of the history of the area at this time.
It gave a valuable insight into the area where he lived for 16 years before moving to England.

Teresa

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~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 3 Aug 2010 17:24

I thought it was well edited in that you got all of her reactions/emotion but you you also learnt a lot about each individual and the records they were using. They didn't seem to waste any time with irrelevant speculation. I noticed that they didn't use any census records but relied on army records which weren't usually available to the public, photographs, prison records, asylum and workhouse records, museums, local historians, court records? and even James Joyce. A good mix. Wasn't it such a shame about the missing and wiped photographs. I wonder how that happened.

Joy

Joy Report 3 Aug 2010 17:28

I was interested in watching this programme especially because I know the area of Clonakilty quite well, and I find Michael Collins a fascinating person; and I enjoyed seeing her wanting to learn how people felt and trying to get inside their minds.

I shall look in my book by Michael Collins "I Signed My Death Warrant" to see if her grandfather is mentioned in it.

TessAkaBridgetTheFidget

TessAkaBridgetTheFidget Report 3 Aug 2010 21:28



I hope that someone has told Dervla, that if she looks at the 1901 Census for Ireland, she will see, not only the details of Henry Kahn and family, but also his signature.
His wife and daughters (plus a grand-daughter) are on the 1911 Census, this shows the signature of Teresa Kahn, Henry's widow.

It was very interesting and informative, as well as moving.

By the way, I did find Esther Marks on the 1901 Census, with her sons. Found the sons (who were Jewellers) on the 1911 Census, but no sign of Esther. I still wonder if there was some sort of personal connection between the families (Esther was from Russia).

Tess (who is half Irish plus half a lot of other things!)