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Need help reading census and 1911 look up please

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Lynnette

Lynnette Report 10 Mar 2011 13:40

Hi all,
i wondered if you would be kind enough to help me again with working out what a census says..
I am looking at the census of 1901 of Charles Bird, location Birmingham Aston born 1899. I cannot work out what the head of households occupation was, can anyone help please...
Also could someone please do me a 1911 lookup for charles please,
thanks everyone

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 10 Mar 2011 14:01

Is this the record you are looking at for 1901? If so the occupation of the head of household is a Japanner & Gilder

Name: Henry Bird
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Julia Bird
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Patrick
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 167
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Bird 41
Julia Bird 37
Florence Bird 12
Herbert Bird 14
Elsie Bird 10
Maud Bird 7
Lavinia Bird 4
Charles Bird 2


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George

Mauatthecoast

Mauatthecoast Report 10 Mar 2011 14:02

Hi Lynette
I can see head of household as being a Jappaner ( ie.varnisher ) and Gilder.( who decorated books with gold leaf.... very interesting occupations....
Mau

Charles Alfred Bird is on 1911...and living in Birmingham,but need credits to view.....unless some kind person with FMP subs. can assist you.

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 10 Mar 2011 14:08

This looks like them on the 1911 census

BIRD, Henry Pownall Head Married M 57 1854 Seale Decorator Warwicks Birmingham VIEW
BIRD, Julia Wife Married
25 years F 50 1861 Harnisham Wiltshire VIEW
BIRD, Herbert Son Single M 24 1887 Brass Polisher Warwick Birmingham VIEW
BIRD, Florence Mabel Julia Daughter Single F 22 1889 Lacquerer Brass Warwick Birmingham VIEW
BIRD, Daisy Elsie Daughter Single F 20 1891 Lacquerer Brass Warwick Birmingham VIEW
BIRD, Maud Hilda Daughter Single F 17 1894 Warehouse Warwick Birmingham VIEW
BIRD, Lavinia Daughter F 14 1897 Paper Warehouse Warwick Birmingham VIEW
BIRD, Charles Alfred Son M 12 1899 School Warwick Birmingham VIEW
BIRD, Rose F 7 1904 Warwick Birmingham VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17994 Reference:
RG14PN17994 RG78PN1095 RD384 SD1 ED6 SN175

Registration District:
Birmingham Sub District:
Ladywood Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Birmingham

Address:
158 Grosvenor Street West Birmingham County:
Warwickshire

George

Lynnette

Lynnette Report 10 Mar 2011 14:11

Thanks everyone for answering-x- For some reason I was reading it as jail yammer for women..lol...never mind sometimes I just can't make them out.But thankyou for the look up and clearing up my confusion :)

Lynnette

Lynnette Report 10 Mar 2011 22:23

Wondered if you could help again with this family, I am trying to find either Henry martyn Sherwood Bird born 1828 (+/_1) in St Johns, worcester married to
Emma jane Newton Born 1833
I have found them on the 1861 census living in Birmingham st thomas , he doesn't state st johns for birth place on this one though he states Stafford , I can't read where she is from.

or Thomas Bird married to Sarah bird of Adbaston farm, Staffs( Henry's parents, so about 1800-1810 for births I would think)


I know its vague , but hope someone may have other avenues to suggest .I have tried igi and freebmd but to no avail, any suggestions ,
many thanks

Lynnette

Lynnette Report 10 Mar 2011 22:35

Another quick thought if i can, on trying to search for the marriage of thomas and sarah i came across one for Thomas Bird and sarah pownall In st johns worcestershire, 1828 .The reason why this one sticks out for me is that the grandchilds middle name was Pownall, do you think this could be the reason why such an unusual name was used in this way , its around the correct date aswell ?? Do you think this may be the marriage ?

Thanks again

Vera2010

Vera2010 Report 11 Mar 2011 03:41

Lynette

Not sure what your asking for. Are you looking for the St John's birth.
This Henry appears in other census with Emma.

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Henry Martyn Sherwood Bird Name: Henry Martyn Sherwood Bird
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1828
Christening Date: 25 Oct 1828
Christening Place: Adbaston, Staffordshire, England
Father's Name: Thomas Bird
Mother's Name: Sarah


Regards
Vera

Lynnette

Lynnette Report 11 Mar 2011 07:48

I am looking for Henry Martyn+ Emma on 1951, 1941 census
or Thomas Bird + sarah on the 1951,1941 census

Vera2010

Vera2010 Report 11 Mar 2011 10:10

Lynette

Sarah widowed. Born in East Indies. Sarah schoolmistress.
Henry Cabinet Maker. Edwin a visitor. Ann a servant


1851 England Census
about Henry Bird Name: Henry Bird
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Sarah Bird
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: ??, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Worcester St John Bedwardine
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Worcester
Sub-registration district: West Worcester
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 155
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Bird 45
Henry Bird 23
Frederick Bird 8
Edwin Hartland 23
Ann Dutfield 16

Vera


Vera2010

Vera2010 Report 11 Mar 2011 10:33


Lynette

Thomas a ? Glover. Sarah school mistress Charlotte a servant

1841 England Census
about Sarah Bird Name: Sarah Bird
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Female
Where born: Foreign Parts

Civil parish: St John Bedwardine
Hundred: Oswaldslow (Lower Division)
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Worcester
Sub-registration district: Worcester West
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bird 35
Sarah Bird 35
George Bird 9
Charlotte Bird 15



Vera

Vera2010

Vera2010 Report 11 Mar 2011 11:22

Lynette

Only link is that he is working on a farm. I would say surname more like Scuffham.


1841 England Census
about Henry Bird Name: Henry Bird
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: St Michael
Hundred: Lichfield
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Lichfield
Sub-registration district: Lichfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Sarffham 55
Catherine Sarffham 50
Martha Sarffham 25
Matthew Sarffham 20
Henry Bird 13

Vera