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The history of Oranges and Lemons.

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MR_MAGOO

MR_MAGOO Report 12 Apr 2011 23:27

Oranges and lemons: lyrics
"Oranges and lemons" say the bells of St. Clement's
"You owe me five farthings" say the bells of St. Martin's
"When will you pay me?" say the bells of Old Bailey
"When I grow rich" say the bells of Shoreditch
"When will that be?" say the bells of Stepney
"I do not know" say the great bells of Bow
"Here comes a candle to light you to bed
Here comes a chopper to chop off your head
Chip chop chip chop - the last man's dead."

The history and origins of the lyrics - sinister!
The words and lyrics have been much loved by generations of British children. The place names relate to some of the many churches of London and the tune that accompanies the lyrics emulates the sound of the ringing of the specific church bells. The words of the nursery rhyme are chanted by children as they play the game of 'Oranges and lemons' the end of which culminates in a child being caught between the joined arms of two others, emulating the act of chopping off their head! The reason for the last three lines of lyrics are easily explained. The 'Great Bells of Bow' were used to time the executions at Newgate prison, which for many years were done by means of beheading. The unfortunate victim would await execution on 'Death Row' and was informed by the warder, the night before the execution ' here comes the candle to light you to bed' of their imminent fate and to make their peace with God! The executions commenced when the bells started chiming at nine o'clock in the morning. When the bells stopped chiming then the executions would be finished until the following day!



SueMaid

SueMaid Report 12 Apr 2011 23:35

That's very interesting Mr M. Aren't there a number of songs that have sinister meanings such as Ring-a Rosie?

Sue

MR_MAGOO

MR_MAGOO Report 12 Apr 2011 23:42

Here is the site the info came from.............

http://www.famousquotes.me.uk/nursery_rhymes/nursery_rhymes_index.htm

From the Great Plague in 1665 Sue.

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 12 Apr 2011 23:55

Thank you - I've always found the origins of words, phrases etc fascinating. I shall enjoy reading up on the nursery rhymes even if it does dash my illusions about all the lovely songs we were brought up with:-))

Sue

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 13 Apr 2011 00:04

I've just read the origin of Humpty Dumpty - I always thought it was about one of the kings. Fascinating.

Sue

MR_MAGOO

MR_MAGOO Report 13 Apr 2011 00:04

I think you might be in for a few suprises......

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 13 Apr 2011 00:07

Going to come back and read after watching our polticians debate.

I taught my little Chinese-Canadian girl neighbours to play Oranges and Lemons on my piano a few years back!

MR_MAGOO

MR_MAGOO Report 13 Apr 2011 00:08

Just read Jack & Jill went up the hill...............

Not the version i know !!!!!!

ChrisofWessex

ChrisofWessex Report 13 Apr 2011 12:32

Ring-a-Rosie is said to be relating to the Plague. Atishoo, Atishoo, we all fall down!