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For Susan with Numbers: Godwin's Law

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Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 13 Jun 2011 01:56

LOL


Yes it is getting rather tiresome isn't it?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 13 Jun 2011 01:48

Oh dear. I guess you win.

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 13 Jun 2011 01:45

yep!

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 13 Jun 2011 01:42

Big wide long noisy yawn.

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 13 Jun 2011 01:29

yawn!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 13 Jun 2011 01:26

Fortunately, your books don't count.


That is indeed the one, and it does *not* say that if I propose an analogy that goes:

If I say Hitler was a bad man, will you denounce me for insulting men?

that is covered by the law.

Nothing and no one was compared to Hitler. End of.



It isn't that difficult.

The argument being advanced is that the first person in a discussion **to compare something or someone to the Nazis or Hitler** loses.

That isn't even the "law", as we can easily see from reading the above. The "law" is like the Law of Gravity: it describes what happens, it doesn't prescribe or prohibit behaviour and assign consequences.

The law is simply

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1 (100%)."

Just as the law of gravity says "things fall down". It's a description. Not a rule.


You are trying to apply a corollary to the law advanced in internet discussions: that the first person to draw an (improper) comparison to Hitler or Nazis loses the discussion.

Since no one did that, there is, as I said, nothing to see here.

I'm sure you see.

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 13 Jun 2011 00:25

Lol Red

That's the one


Thick we may seem but thick we are not......just looks that way sometimes

You mentioned Him Janey....in my books....end of subject :-D

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 13 Jun 2011 00:20

Of course, no one compared anyone to Hitler or a Nazi in the discussion under discussion. No Nazi analogy there, folks, nothing to see, move along!

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~  **007 1/2**

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 12 Jun 2011 23:36

Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2] which has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1 (100%)."[3][2] In other words, Godwin put forth the hyperbolic observation that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably criticizes some point made in the discussion by comparing it to beliefs held by Hitler and the Nazis.
Godwin's law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the widespread Reductio ad Hitlerum form.[citation needed] The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued[4] that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.
Although in one of its early forms Godwin's law referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions,[5] the law is now often applied to any threaded online discussion, such as forums, chat rooms and blog comment threads, and has been invoked for the inappropriate use of Nazi analogies in articles or speeches.[6]

more at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law