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Hi Hilda m shaw married a Samuel shaw in chesterfield , she was then named fisher by her first marriage, I can't find a record of her maiden name, birth or anything can anyone help please

This marriage? have you purchased the cert for her age and father's details if known?

Marriages Sep 1920 (>99%)
Fisher Hilda M Shaw Chesterfield 7b 2266

Shaw Samuel Fisher Chesterfield 7b 2266

If they had children her maiden name should be shown on the registration.

are you certain she was married before? There is a birth of a Samuel Shaw after the marriage with mother's maiden name Fisher ( look on Freebmd.org.uk)

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Possible first marriage?

Marriages Sep 1914
Bonson Hilda M Fisher Chesterfield 7b 1630
Fisher Wilfred Bonson Chesterfield 7b 1630

though it could be this one if the maiden name was Fisher?

Births Mar 1902 (>99%)
Fisher Hilda Mary Chesterfield 7b 737

True, just going by op - wondered if Vena had marriage cert for the Shaw marriage , describing her as widow, but then it should have had Hilda's father's name on it . :-S

If she was Hilda Bonson this is a likely birth.

Births Sep 1895 Bonson Hilda May Chesterfield 7b 717

If Rose is right, and Hilda was maiden name Fisher, then this could be Hilda's death - as Dec 1901 birth tallies with birth registered 1st Qtr 1902 that Rose has already posted:

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Hilda Mary Fisher<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Birth Date: 4 Dec 1901<<<<<<<<<<<
Date of Registration: Mar 1979
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 6
Page: 0280

There are three SHAW children with mother maiden name given as BONSON born in Chesterfield between 1925 and 1933, two girls and a boy.

I won't post them here as they may still be living, but you can find them on freebmd.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl


Edited as I put Fisher when It should have been Shaw.

Thankyou, rambling rose, unsure of anything about her, fisher could have been her maiden name, we were however led to believe she was a bonsall and her husband(fisher) went to ww1 and died in action,

Bonson is quite close to Bonsall?

Did 'your' Hilda have the three children, two boys and a girl,born 1925-1933, that I mentioned previously could be found on Freebmd?

Thankyou ku into, so helpful Bonson is the one maiden name, I found nothing has I was looking for bonsall
I appreciate your help everyone

This Wilfrid Fisher died in the war, but there is no additional information about his family, so I don't know if he is the man who married Hilda May Bonson in Chesterfield:

Wilfred Fisher
Rank:Private
Service No:14621
Date of Death:21/03/1918
Regiment/Service:Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment) 12th Bn.
Awards:M M
Panel Reference: Panel 52 to 54.
Memorial:POZIERES MEMORIAL
Additional Information:

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about Wilfred Fisher
Name: Wilfred Fisher
Birth Place: Chesterfield, Derbyshire
Residence: Chesterfield, Derbyshire
Death Date: 21 Mar 1918
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Cresswell, Derbyshire
Rank: Private
Regiment: Notts and Derby (Sherwood Foresters) Regiment
Battalion: 12th Battalion
Regimental Number: 14621
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Other Records: Search for 'Wilfred Fisher' in other WWI collections

Do you know the forenames of any of Hilda's children, to compare with the three Shaw/Bonson births on FreeBMD, or is the Samuel Shaw that Rose found, Hilda's child to your knowledge?

Not sure about the children it's possible, I know there were Sam Joseph and 2 girls together, as shaw but don't know of anymore

Not sure about the children it's possible, I know there were Sam Joseph and 2 girls together, as shaw but don't know of anymore

The Shaw/Bonson boy on FreeBMD is plain Joseph, with two elder sisters.

You can easily check for yourself, to see if the girls' names ring a bell.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

1911 England Census about Hilda May Bonson
Name: Hilda May Bonson
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Whittington, Lancashire, England
[Whittington, DERBYSHIRE]
Civil Parish: Whittington
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address: 458 Sheffield Rd Whittington Chesterfield
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Chesterfield
Registration District Number: 438
Sub-registration district: Chesterfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Piece: 21108
Household Members:
Name Age
George Broadbent Bonson 46
Fanny Bonson 39
George James Bonson 20
Sydney Mosley Bonson 19
Hilda May Bonson 15 <<<<<<<<
Charles William Bonson 13
Ivy Evelyn Bonson 9

Fantastic thankyou