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Liverpool Car Park fire
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Denburybob | Report | 4 Jan 2018 19:22 |
Horses may not have hands, but they are measured in them :-) |
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maggiewinchester | Report | 3 Jan 2018 23:23 |
I quoted a person who was there - SHE and a colleague had to get over a fence - a fence to keep the public out - the horses were removed from the scene in horse boxes. |
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Maureen | Report | 3 Jan 2018 22:22 |
Due to Government cost cutting the Fire Dept had only 2 machines attending at the onset of the fire, a few years ago they would have had 8 engines attending, including one with a turnstyle to enable to reach high areas.They had to wait until other engines came from other areas including Manchester, the water is carried on board and when this was used they did get the water from the Mersey but this again took time. |
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Denburybob | Report | 3 Jan 2018 19:39 |
Most tower blocks are served by Dry Rising Mains, whereby the water is pumped via the fire appliance up a pipe, with an outlet on each floor. Bearing in mind that it takes approx. 1lb of pressure to raise the water 2 ft, that is a lot of pressure to raise it to the top floor of some buildings. For the technically minded, (and before some clever-clogs wants to be pedantic about it) the formula is H=P x.2.304, or, conversely, P = H x .434. H = head, in feet, P = pressure in lbs per sq inch. I hope I have got this right or I am going to look really stupid. |
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maggiewinchester | Report | 3 Jan 2018 19:01 |
Quote Rollo: |
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AnninGlos | Report | 3 Jan 2018 16:43 |
An ordinary fire extinguisher might have put out the original fire. I did see that one was looked for as soon as the fire was spotted but couldn't be found. No doubt any that were installed in the car park would have been vandalised anyway which is probably why there weren't any. |
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BrianW | Report | 3 Jan 2018 16:34 |
In the case of a fuel fire you really need foam, but water is better than nothing and might keep it from spreading too far before the fire brigade can get there. |
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maggiewinchester | Report | 3 Jan 2018 16:08 |
Sharron - sorry :-( |
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Bobtanian | Report | 3 Jan 2018 15:29 |
True, Rollo, |
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Bobtanian | Report | 3 Jan 2018 15:26 |
fire engines as far as i know use hydrant water and using on board pumps provide enough pressure to reach higher buildings... |
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Sharron | Report | 3 Jan 2018 15:20 |
Maggie, will you stop getting above yourself. |
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LaGooner | Report | 3 Jan 2018 15:15 |
From it's location surely they could pump water straight from the Mersey :-S |
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maggiewinchester | Report | 3 Jan 2018 15:11 |
Yes, Bob, a way to ensure water for sprinklers!! :-D |
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Bobtanian | Report | 3 Jan 2018 13:00 |
maybe difficult for normal mains water pressures to reach higher than normal floor levels hence hence a ginormous header tank and pumping system.. |
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maggiewinchester | Report | 3 Jan 2018 11:24 |
One would assume sprinkler systems would be fireproof!!! |
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BrianW | Report | 3 Jan 2018 07:42 |
It ought to be mandatory for public buildings to have sprinklers. There have been several instances where shopping malls and motorway service areas (e.g. South Mimms) have gone up in flames. |
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maggiewinchester | Report | 2 Jan 2018 23:27 |
I'm amazed there weren't sprinklers too, Liz. |
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Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond | Report | 2 Jan 2018 22:20 |
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AnninGlos | Report | 2 Jan 2018 14:29 |
That thought crossed my mind too Phyll and I did read somewhere that one woman had left hers there while she went for a meal in a restaurant. |
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Phyll | Report | 2 Jan 2018 14:17 |
Who, in their right mind, would leave dogs in a car in a car park. I'm not particularly fond of animals but I don't like cruelty. Surely they should face some sort of reprimand. |
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