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Det - not only that - how many muddy paw prints will end up on it, and how many times will Betty (cat) upchuck on it :-|
It took 4 attempts last time :-(
I'll probably start another 'tree' starting from Joanna.

Ah, but will the lining paper be wide enough? How can you fit on all those grandparents,even if you only follow one of your parents from both the paternal & maternal lines.

The earliest born people I have on one line, are the named parents of a child bap 1674. On a different one, it goes back to 1539 but that came from IGI which always rings alarm bells!

On page 1, I said genealogy was easier when 'aristocracy' loomed.

Well, having created a simple family tree (just parents, no siblings) going back to 1207 on a roll of lining paper, plus a folder with information about most of these ancestors, for a family gathering in September, I hadn't looked at the tree since then.

Yesterday, I looked for Joanna (Johanna) de Dinham's ancestors. (the lady in the tomb on my avatar)
I have tentatively got back to her great times loads gandfather - one Hamon, Vicompte de Dinan & Dol & Aleth de Dinan, born in Dinan, Brittany, in 970. :-S :-S

I need to verify this, but am happy to say, French records go back this far :-D

I also need to create another tree or more on lining paper (I know where I am, then), and folder, for these ancestors :-( :-(

I have on Fathers and Mothers side of my tree reached Great-great-grand parents
I'm happy to report I have had assistance, thank you to those who helped.

I have a lady called Tamar Potter 1717 in my Tree Sylvia
She is by far my Favorite person
She Married in York Minster
and is grave 1 in our family church at Gillamoor
I have found every Tamar in the graveyard
and their is quite a few are related to her

Its funny how names can reoccur in a family

Detective Theres many a twist in Family history
Maybe they started off as labourers then went on to Manufacture :-D :-D

:-D :-D

A couple of my grt grt Uncles helped found & fund a Weslywn Chapel in the Medway towns. The Archive catalogue summary describes them as Cement Manufacturers. Census listing them as Cement Labourers. Talk about embellishing the truth :-D

The story for OH's paternal side is that one branch was Quaker, and that they are connected with a family that went to help found Pennsylvania, sailing on the Lamb about 1682, but no-one researching the family has so far the connection between that family and OH's ancestor with exactly the same name and from the same area who "appears" in 1725.

The one who went to Pennsylvania died 6 months after arriving from cholera, and his descendents were largely excommunicated in later years.

What we do know is that OH's ancestors were probably also Quakers, and moved back and forth between parts of Lancashire and Yorkshire, exchanging corn mills and farms with a related branch of cousins ........... and that they all had the same forenames :-0 . The thought is that they moved as persecution for their religion became too bad. The moves were always between censuses!! It was h***-ish trying to sort that lot out.

OH's 4x gt grandfather (1762-1842) was a "devout Quaker who preached at" Brigg Flatts Meeting House in Sedbergh, Yorkshire.

In spite of that ............. all the ancestors that I've found were hatched matched and dispatched in the CofE.


The one weird thing is that I read a book back in the late 50s/early 60s, and saw the name of a servant that I thought was lovely. I thought back then that I would like to use that name if I ever had a daughter. That was way before OH and I married.

Fast forward 15 or so years, we had a daughter, and I gave her that name.

OH's father said "Oh, that was my Gt Aunt's name, but you used the wrong spelling." Huh??

Fast forward another 30+ years ............... and guess what name I found in literally every generation of the above family from the 1600s right up to the present??

The exact name that I gave my daughter, with about 4 variant spellings including the one we used and the one for f-i-l's gt aunt.

Well done Roll
o My Dad was in the Army For 30 odd years
The Duke of Wellingtons :-D :-D

Shirley My Daughter in Laws family
on her grandads side come from Germany too
I haven't did those yet Not even tried
I have also found a few porkiess in our Family history





AndysMum I am so glad I dont have any Welsh

and one of my Family built a church in Gillamoor Yorks
We have some Methodists too

There is a small industrial town on the coast of La Manche (English Channel) called "Eu". What else lol?
Back then Eu was a village. One of my ancestors was married there about 980. His great gson was a soldier of fortune who ended up in Yorkshire.

I have the same problem as Caroline (and others) with my Welsh side. Great-grandfather owned a woollen mill in Merthyr, making blankets, according to my mother. It is still there and I have been inside it, although it's not a mill any more. On that side I can't get much further back because they all have the same surnames and once Welsh patronymics come into play it's impossible!! :-(

Another great-grandfather came from a village in Derbyshire and was the local founder of Methodism. The family were lead-miners and reasonably well off. They paid for a large part of the new Methodist chapel and, because church attendance was compulsory and the nearest C of E church was a 3-mile walk across the moors, almost the whole village became Methodist overnight!! :-) :-)

I have a few skeletons and several brick walls, but no aristocracy yet, unless you count my mother's cousin, Anthony Barber, who had a Life Peerage.

1740 on my dad's maternal side as the line goes back through a long line of Nathaniel Dartnell's who were all barge builders on the Thames

The 1740 was the grandfather of the first Nathaniel who was born c 1790

On dad's paternal side very little ,he was German . In 1889 there was a brother of his dad born in Bradford Yorkshire I have the cert and the parents names that's tie with the 1891 and 1901 census etc
Lots of lies told by grandad and one of his brothers who both joined the British army in 1898 and lied saying they were born in Bradford Yorkshire and anglised their names from German to English

Grandad died in 1911 his brother in 1907 . The mum in 1907 nothing on the family from 1911 ,other than my dad's side, and no clue where in Germany they came from

I have got back to 1800s Tipperary from Mums Granddad. but they finished up in Liverpool as a lot of Irish did .other side were from Derby 3rd great grandad he had 13 children with two wives mill owner apparently he was a right bully Dads family from highlands of Scotland but they finished up.in Darwin lancs were Grt Gran met Grt Grandad.who was a Stonemason in Lancashire Dad had Scottish Gran English Grandad.
I believe one of my ancestors rode with Dick Turpin he was hung ugh I am an All sort English Irish Scottish ;-) really interesting :-D

Don't be too sure, Caroline.
I found recent ancestors as tin miners, in tin mines previously owned by their ancestors :-S

Thanks...doesn't help they moved around a lot too....and of course mostly miners...nothing to make them stand out in the crowd :-)

I am so glad I dont have any Welsh Assertor's
It would be a nightmare

Good luck Caroline :-D :-D

My lot always seemed to use the same names....which is bad enough but then everyone else in the village did too....who knew there'd be so many Thomas Thomas and John Evans!!

On Hubby side can trace to the beginning of settlement in Canada and beyond very well documented.

We have quite a few Coats of arms
My favorite translated means
We will not be moved-- haha
I also have a number of sea captains
And found one of my Husbands Gt grandfather
worked on the river with mine
Towards the end of their lives

My husbands Gt grandmother was born at Raby Castle

But the ones I like the best are the ones who worked the land
or Lived in my Town and shed blood sweat and tears
to make this town what it was

At least your ancestors did something constructive!
Mine appear to have married into wealth, then had girls, some of whom married into wealth - like Godolphins and Arundells, but my direct ancestors married bl**dy pirates and MP's (or a combination of both)! :-|
Quite a few of the males went to Cambridge - what did that do for them?
I suppose it meant they could read and write (though some of their descendants couldn't), and complain because 'he's copying my coat of arms', and 'he called me a blaggart', and take people to court - though that's quite funny. At the proceedings, in 1638, we have - Gilbert Dethick - registrar, Arthur Duck, lawyer and Hannibal Gammon, clerk :-|