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I am looking for relatives of John M Haythorn, born 1904 in Cathcart, Glasgow. His father was James, and his wife Irene, nee Jackson. He was an extremely talented automotive engineer, producingg several innovative motor cycle engines, personally. The family moved to Preston, where John worked for Centric Superchargers, later to become Shorrock Superchargers. I cannot find any trace of him after the war, and would like to find out what happened to him. I am a keen motorcyclist, and would like to ensure that John Haythorn is not forgotten. Colin

Have you tried googling his name

Did he marry ??

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Haythorn Household (3 People)
5 Newstead Avenue , Newark M.B., Nottinghamshire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
John Haythorn 30 Mar 1903 Cold Metal Sawyer & Steel Plate Planer Heavy Worker
Margaret A Haythorn 14 Jun 1906 Unpaid Domestic Duties
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Ref: RG101/6233B/014/23 Letter Code: RNNC
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JOHN
Last name HAYTHORN
Gender Male
Birth day 30
Birth month 3
Birth year 1903
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1984
District Newark
Register number 584
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 8
Page 453
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

Couldn't see the parents on the 1939 but this is why

Deaths Mar 1933
Haythorn James 64 Preston 8e 859

Not picking up Irene's death

He wasn't registered as John M


Surname Forename Gender Year Ref RD Name Image View
HAYTHORN
JOHN
1904
560/ 379
Cathcart (Lanark)

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Harris Institute Successes
Principal of the Harris Institute. Preston, has received the following examination results John Haythorn has obtained the B.Ssc. (Engineering; Degree of the Vnivcrsity of London. Crawley and Conxtar.co Hunt! have obtained the
11 August 1933 - Lancashire Evening Post - Preston, Lancashire, England

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MARRIAGES
20. Barlow-street. Preston. HAYTHORN—JACKSON. On the 29th July. 1937. at St. James’s Chucch, Hampton Hill. Middlesex JOHN HAYTHORN. B.Sc., A.M.1.A.E., only son of Mrs. and the late JAMES HAYTHORN. Frenchwood House. Preston. to IRENE only daughter of
30 July 1937 - Lancashire Evening Post - Preston, Lancashire, England


just two references to the Haythorn in Britishnewspapers,which are online and on this site also Findmypast which require credits to read the full article.

The only addition to the marriage notice is that Irene's parents lived at Fishergate-hill, Preston.

It's doubtful if any other of the articles (Findmypast) are to do with 'your' John Haythorn.

Freebmd doesn't give any births for Haythorn/Jackson 1937-1955.
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Possible Probate entry
John Haythorn
Death Date: 7 Nov 1964
Death Place: Gourock
Probate Date: 6 Jan 1965
Probate Registry: London, England

Haythorn, John of Kynance of 53 Divert Rd Gourock died 7 Nov 1964 at Bishopton. Confirmation of Irene Haythorn. Sealed London 6 Jan (1965)

As I've never heard of the place......
Gourock is a town falling within the Inverclyde council area and formerly forming a burgh of the county of Renfrew in the West of Scotland. It has in the past functioned as a seaside resort on the East shore of the upper Firth of Clyde
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Scotlandspeople death reg ????
Surname Forename Age at death Mother's Maiden Name Year Ref RD Name
HAYTHORN
JOHN
60
1964
563/ 60
Erskine

Thanks for all your help. The Grantham one is not the right one. However, most of the rest are spot on. Thank you. I will get the certificate for the 1964 death, and see what clues it yields. It does look as if John and Irene did not have any children, but I will keep searching.

Birth regs on Scotlandspeople don't show mothers maiden name. If they moved there shortly after their marriage, it would be difficult to work out which, if any, are their children.

The 1939 register doesn't cover Scotland. That's a bit of a nuisance as it might have been useful.

Could Irene possibly have moved back to Lancashire?

IRENE
Last name HAYTHORN
Gender Female
Birth day 1
Birth month 2
Birth year 1905
Death quarter 1
Death year 1991
District Preston & South Ribble
Register number 191
County Lancashire
Volume 40
Page 2095

The death might possibly match with this birth

Births Mar 1905 (>99%)
Jackson Irene Preston 8e 571

The Irene who died in 1991 had an estate which went to Probate.

Haythorn, Irene of Ravenscroft Nursing Home, Marsh Lane Longton Preston died 12 Jan 1991. Probate Liverpool 28 March. Not exceeding £115000
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Should you be so inclined, you could order a copy of the Will from the above site for £10 or the DC from GRO https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp
Forgotten the cost - £11???

Good find. That lead looks very promising. Thank you. Colin

Unless someone can come up with a different idea, you could access the 1911 census, but only on Scotlandspeople.

Someone may be able to manipulate the site to work out who else he’s living with. If siblings, it may be possible to trace them forward.

By manipulating the SP site for the 1911 census -

Surname HAYTHORN
Forename JOHN
Year 1911
Gender M
Age at Census 6
Ref560/ 2/L 18
RD Name Cathcart
County/ City Lanark


On same Ref. No as John -

James 42
Barbara 3
Caroline 0
Rebecca 31

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On Ref. No 560 / 2L 17 there is this Haythorn family also in Cathcart

Charles 36
Agnes 28
Nellie 33
John W 31
Caroline 46

Valuation rolls - 2 credits to access further details from each

1905 -

Surname HAYTHORN
Forename JAMES
Title
Status Tenant Occupier
Place HOUSE CASTLE MANSIONS CASTLE ROAD
Parish CATHCART
Year 1905
Reference Number VR011400081-

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1915 // 1920

Surname HAYTHORN
Forename JOHN
Title
Status Tenant Occupier
Place HOUSE NO 119 CASTLE ROAD
Parish CATHCART
Year1915
Reference Number VR010201100-

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1925 // 1930

Surname HAYTHORN
Forename JOHN W
Title
Status Tenant
Place HOUSE 119 CASTLE ROAD
Parish CATHCART
Year 1925
Reference Number VR010201378-

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1935

HAYTHORN
Forename AGNES D
Title
StatusProprietor Occupier
Place HOUSE 32 ELMORE AVENUE
Parish CATHCART
Year 1935
Reference Number VR010201568-