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One church, two popes

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RolloTheRed Report 20 Apr 2019 10:16

Two's a crowd

Sur le pont d’Avignon,
L’on y danse, l’on y danse,
Sur le pont d’Avignon
L’on y danse tous en rond.
Et les abbés font comme ça
Et puis encore comm’ ça.


Dermot Report 20 Apr 2019 10:43

'Just about managing' - to use Mrs May's famous expression.


Dermot Report 22 Apr 2019 16:52

One pope is quite enough

We say: Benedict XVI's current meddling is neither sound analysis nor helpful to a pope making unprecedented efforts to reform the clergy culture. Benedict had his opportunities to call the church's hierarchical culture to account, but he failed.

(National Catholic Reporter).


Dermot Report 25 Apr 2019 06:07

Pope Francis has infuriated Catholic traditionalists by kissing the feet of Muslims, permitting the divorced-and-remarried to take communion, and allowing open homosexuals into the priesthood if they say they are nonactive.

Some conservative Catholics even started calling for Francis to resign after Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò revealed last August that the pope had covered up for a homosexual cardinal who had sexually abused young boys. While liberal Catholics have mostly glossed over the cover-up, Pope Francis responded to the accusations against him by saying that those who spend their lives accusing the Catholic Church are “friends, cousins and relatives of the devil.”

Pope Emeritus Benedict xvi, who resigned as pope six years ago, has avoided commenting on Francis’s papacy. But he broke his silence on April 10 to bolster the conservative position and criticize the current state of the Catholic Church. In a 6,000-word published letter, he blamed the sex abuse committed by priests on “homosexual cliques” that had infected Catholic seminaries after the 1960s’ sexual revolution.

The letter neglected to mention Benedict’s own history of allegedly covering for 19 homosexual bishops who sexually abused young boys. The letter does not attack Pope Francis directly, but by openly admitting that homosexuality in Catholic seminaries is a problem, it thwarts Francis’s tactic of sidestepping the issue. Catholic traditionalists have latched on to Benedict’s letter as proof that Francis is taking the Roman Catholic Church in a wrong direction. Catholic liberals have lambasted it as divisive and “embarrassingly wrong.”

So we have two living popes who don’t openly criticize one another, but who still have different visions for the Catholic Church. This is creating confusion and division. The Catholic Church may be facing its biggest crisis in centuries.

“What is happening is what many of us hoped would not happen,” said Massimo Faggioli, a professor of religious studies at Villanova University. “The idea of a double papacy is really, really disruptive.” Last year, Vanity Fair published an editorial titled “Pope vs. Pope: How Francis and Benedict’s Conflict Could Split the Church.”

(Published in 'The Trumpet' magazine.)