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How to confirm a birth

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Jayne

Jayne Report 25 Sep 2019 14:01

I have a James Ward born 1859 in Preston. When I have been on the GRO site there are a few with the same name born in the same area.. So knowing who he married I thought I would look for their marriage and hope there would be a parent name on there. But the new look site will only let you search births and deaths. Any suggestions please x

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 14:36

You will only find a parent's name on the marriage cert itself, not on the index. Who did James marry please as it may give father's name on Parish register, eg at https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 25 Sep 2019 14:52

If you use a mix of FreeBMD and the census records it is usually possible to sort out this sort of thing. Watch out for spelling/transcription errors on the census records.

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 25 Sep 2019 15:00

James Ward birth Q1 1859 MMN Bamber
James Ward birth Q3 1859 MMN Sharples

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 15:10

Following on from Supercrutch

The Ward/Bamber marriage on lanopc

Marriage: 30 Sep 1850 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
James Ward - 25, Railway Porter, Bachelor, 16 Mill Hill
Jane Bamber - 25, Dressmaker, Spinster, Maudland Bank
Bride's Father: James Bamber, Late, Joiner
Witness: Geo. T. Park; Elizabeth Bamber, (X)
Married by License by: John Kitton Curate
Notes: [Groom's Father's name not given]
Register: Marriages 1850 - 1851, Page 107, Entry 214
Source: LDS Film 93994

Jayne

Jayne Report 25 Sep 2019 15:11

He married Mary Ellen Tipping x

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 15:17

Marriages Mar 1887 (>99%)

TIPPING Mary Ellen Preston 8e 693
WARD James Preston 8e 693

Just wondering if the names have been mixed up here?

Marriage: 16 Feb 1887 Emmanuel, Preston, Lancashire, England
John Ward - 27, Pawnbroker, Bachelor, 39 Addison Road
Mary Ellen Tipping - 21, Spinster, 1 Richmond Terrace
Groom's Father: James Ward, Gentleman
Bride's Father: Edward Tipping, Engineer
Witness: Richard Ward; Sarah Jane Tipping
Married by Licence by: E. S. Murcdock, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1886 - 1896, Page 6, Entry 12
Source: LDS Film 1471021

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 25 Sep 2019 15:19

Mary Ellen
Last name Tipping
Name note -
Marriage year 1887
Marriage date 17 Feb 1887
Marriage place Emmanuel's At Preston
Father's first name(s) Edward
Father's last name Tipping
Spouse's first name(s) James
Spouse's last name Ward
Spouse's father's first name(s) James
Spouse's father's last name Ward

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 25 Sep 2019 15:20

snap our Rose but two different sources :-D

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 15:20

Looks like it

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
St Cuthberts Road, Preston, Lancashire, England

James Ward Head Married Male 32 1859 Pawnbrokers Assistant Lancashire, England
Mary E Ward Wife Married Female 25 1866 - Lancashire, England
Nellie Ward Daughter Single Female 3 1888 - Lancashire, England
Frank Ward Son - Male 1 1890 - Lancashire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 15:22

Pawnbrokers assistant here so likely I think

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
42, Emmanuel Street, Preston, Lancashire, England

James Ward Head Married Male 56 1825 Commission Agent Kendal, Westmorland, England
Jane Ward Wife Married Female 56 1825 - Preston, Lancashire, England
Annie Ward Daughter Single Female 29 1852 Cotton Weaver Preston, Lancashire, England
Agnes Ward Daughter Single Female 26 1855 Cotton Weaver Preston, Lancashire, England
James Ward Son Single Male 22 1859 Pawn Brokers Assistant Preston, Lancashire, England <<<<<<
Thomas Ward Son Single Male 19 1862 Articled Clerk Law Preston, Lancashire, England
Richard Ward Son Single Male 17 1864 General Clerk Preston, Lancashire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 15:25

So it's the James Ward / JaneBamber marriage that Supercrutch posted,

sister Agnes 1855 on census

WARD, AGNES BAMBER
GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 392

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Sep 2019 15:33

Ward/Tipping

WARD, HILDA TIPPING
GRO Reference: 1896 M Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 557
WARD, LILIAN TIPPING
GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 574
WARD, THOMAS EDWARD TIPPING
GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 608

Mary E is a widow on the 1901 census.

Jayne

Jayne Report 25 Sep 2019 15:36

Thank you. I have James and Mary Ellen on the 1891 census and their marriage. But whe I go to find James on the 1881 census there are a couple of matches. So I thought that if I could find the marriage I might be able to work out which is him. I will have a look on free bmd now. Thankyou for your help x

Jayne

Jayne Report 25 Sep 2019 15:37

Scrap that last message of mine. Since I wen to make a brew you have found loads. Just going to read now. Thank you all x

Jayne

Jayne Report 25 Sep 2019 15:45

I have traced a lot of lines for my friend but then I come to a point where I just can't get past. But then I come on here after trying for hours myself and you lot help me and find what I'm looking for. Thank you all. I would have been stuck on a few lines if it wasn't for you all x

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 25 Sep 2019 16:01

:-D :-D @ Jayne