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Sharron Report 16 Nov 2019 18:45

I have been a vegetarian for close on fifty years.

We have always been a minority and have always eaten from the limited vegetarian menu or had another meal without something. We were not a big market so we were only given limited consideration but we got by.

Now there is a huge and lucrative vegan market and they are being catered for big time, generally by people who are not even vegetarian.

For so many years I have eaten catering breakfasts without the bacon and bangers and that has been fine by me.

Now I see vegan breakfasts everywhere, rarely vegetarian, and just about every one involves avocado and/or spinach.

Avocado is alright now and again with a bit of Stilton and balsamic, under the grill but it really has no place in my breakfast, it doesn't taste of anything much.

Spinach is alright as a vegetable but it also doesn't taste of much and the one thing it does do is spoil any egg it is combined with. Spinach is edible, eggs are pretty good but together they are the veritable droppings of the devil like cheese and baked beans (bleh!).

We veggies were all doing alright, quietly picking our way through eating out until the vegans came along and had to be catered for but I do wonder if they really want the avocado and spinach any more than I do.

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond Report 16 Nov 2019 22:27

I love avocados!



SylviaInCanada Report 17 Nov 2019 01:02

Sharron ................ I'm lactose-intolerant and for the longest time that was hard to find as a catered meal, eg on a plane or the train. Starbucks was the only place where I could be sure that I could get a soy latte, much as I dislike their coffee.

More than once I was given the vegetarian breakfast or whatever ................. complete with cheese. Not so hard to deal with if it was a lump, but it was usually shredded and mixed throughout the rest of the meal.

Far too often I'm asking if being lactose-intolerant means being able to eat eggs, or "no you can't have that meal, it's got eggs in it."????? :-S

But my unfavourite breakfast was the one that was served to me on one of our trains some years ago. The meals on that train are prepared offsite, and then heated and plated on the train. The usual providers are the hotels at each end of the journey ............ it used to be a Fairmont at one end and a Westin at the other, pretty high standard hotels, I'm not sure if it still them.

I knew something was wrong with my breakfast as I heard crew members giggling as one of them brought the plate from the galley to me. They gathered round our table as our server placed a plateful of roasted vegetables in front of me, all glistening with oil. A grand selection of potatoes, asparagus, red, green and yellow peppers, green beans, mushrooms and a couple of others I don't remember.

We all just burst in laughter, it was all so weird ............... lunch, maybe, breakfast no.

One of the crew members then offered to make me toast, no butter and to bring lots of jam or marmalade packets. :-D


Florence61 Report 17 Nov 2019 11:16

Well I have been a veggie since I was 2.I am also lactose intolerant and severely allergic to eggs, butter cream, margarine.

So when I go out, getting a sandwich is nigh impossible unless its a bakery that will make me a roll on the spot! menus in restaurants hardly ever have anything I can eat because I don't take sauces(no milk).
I will add that I do eat fish so not a complete veggie but this is my safe food. So I always seem to plump for a steamed bit of fish with plain veg or rice.
I get called boring! For breakfast I have cornflakes with orange juice not milk and people think im odd!

I personally think we can all live without butter or spread as its just fat.I mean butter is made out of grass. I haven't suffered nutritionally for not eating it.
When I got my angiogram, they had a look at all my arteries just to see how clean and healthy they were. Results they said were a perfectly healthy heart just the leak that's the problem.

I have a good cholesterol level and don't need statins etc.

But Veganism suddenly seems to be a fashion if you ask me and yes Sharon, vegetariums never got this much interest.

my sunday lunch growing up was either a pilchard salad or beans on toast. my mother said I was strange not to eat a roast beef dinner!

Florence in the hebrides


Sharron Report 17 Nov 2019 13:47

I can't remember ever being served a breakfast that included cheese until recently when halloumi became universal. Or, indeed, avocado or spinach.

While I'm moaning, I can't say I appreciate being offered muffins either. We once stayed in a motel that didn't offer toast but there were muffins available. Tht is cke and you have that for tea or in your lunch-box.

It must be difficult being lactose intolerant but you do kind of learn the habit of knowing what you can have. I had a quite difficult phase of potato intolerance around the menopause, not, perhaps the easiest intolerance for a British person.


nameslessone Report 17 Nov 2019 14:00

A coeliac can eat anything so long as is not bread :-P

A lot of gluten free food is now also vegan - making it worse than ever.

Also get very annoyed by vegans crying to the newspapers about how ‘ill’ they,ve been after a mouthful of the wrong food - they need to grow up and realise how bad it is for those that have real problems.


Sharron Report 17 Nov 2019 14:13

I have always been a bit pragmatic about being a vegetarian. It is, after all, my choice. If you, accidentally, dropped a bit of beef stock in my gravy, don't waste it, just don't let me know.

My choice is to not knowingly cause suffering as far as I am able.


SylviaInCanada Report 17 Nov 2019 18:10

Florence .............. we stopped eating butter way back in the early 70s because it was too expensive and we were saving money. Then we went to Australia for about 11 months, and margarine was the expensive spread. Back we went to buying butter as we were on a tight budget.

We continued eating butter after we came back here, then switched again to margarine some time in the early 80s, by the mid-80s we had stopped using margarine on bread, and used it only when cooking in place of butter. No-one noticed the difference when I baked and used margarine for cakes, pastires, cookies, etc.

OH's sister pointed out to us one time that using only jam or marmalade on toast without any kind of spread made the flavour stand out much more.

maggie .......... I've developed some form of gluten intolerance, so I buy gluten-free bread because I don't have problems when I eat it, and I am so glad that most of it is also lactose-free. Now if only the gluten-free slices of cakes, muffins or cookies on sale in coffee shops were also lactose-free .... or one or two of them ...... then I could have an afternoon snack ;-)

I'm also very careful when I'm out before asking for gluten-free bread for toast or to replace a hamburger bun ............... I can go 3 or4 days without a problem and I know that some places may have a very limited supply, eg on the trains that we take across Canada. They're usually carrying it because they do have a coeliac or gluten-free requiring passenger. I can always avoid the bread or bun!


Tawny Report 17 Nov 2019 21:01

I have a tomato intolerance not allergy. I break out in a rash and in severe cases bring it up but the affects are not life threatening just unpleasant. I have great fun trying to explain that one to people. As it’s an intolerance I can eat things that have been around tomato just not the fruit itself.

I have brownies with a gluten intolerance and a rainbow who’s not allowed nuts as her sister who is also my brownie is allergic so we have to be careful what we bring in. I also have a brownie who cannot eat beef or pork but does eat chicken.


SylviaInCanada Report 17 Nov 2019 21:17

Tawny ................ I had a niece (my brother's child) who was intolerant of tomatoes, and also of strawberries. She also broke out into a rash.

My daughter gets a rash when she eats strawberries, but loves them, and they grow them in their garden, so she will eat a few at a time.

My intolerances have all developed in the 15 or so years, so it's a real learning curve for me! Like you, the results of eating are just unpleasant, won't kill me or make me really ill .............. just wish the next 4 hours would be over QUICKLY!!