General Chat

I was, coincidentally , reading about the science behind viruses last night (written long before this outbreak ) and found this interesting today. How soap works.

https://tinyurl.com/tuzvvor

Your kids asked a good question!! There is nothing to stop them at the moment. Unless Border Security checks they have visas issued in the UK, and decide to not allow.

Local Border Security offices do seem to have a great deal of leeway in issuing orders ......... the one in Seattle issued an order to stop and question anyone with Iranian origins a few weeks ago. It cause absolute chaos at the border just south of Vancouver.

The people returning from Italy etc and then going straight about their business is not a good idea. That said I'm not sure what advice we're giving to anyone from overseas as they get here either. As my kids said this evening what's to stop people coming to Canada from Europe then hopping over to America....and why America is letting the UK in when they have it is questionable.

Yep ............... Trump has decreed no flights from Europe (excluding the UK).

Too little too late.

The US is so far behind the fast ball that it isn't funny any more!

NBA (basketball) has suspended its season. NHL (ice hockey) will be talking and deciding "tomorrow" (Thursday)

Mind you, I was more than surprised, aghast may be a better word, when I read that the UK had airlifted Brits from the Grand Princess, a coronavirus-ridden ship, dropped them off at the airport to get home by TAXI. It seems they were not checked on landing before being allowed to leave.

I didn't get whether they had been told to self-isolate or not.


Canada's 227 passengers from that same ship were brought back to Trenton Air Force base in Ontario, checked during the flight and on landing, and are now in seclusion for 2 weeks in the same motel that the passengers from the previous airlift from Japan were in. They were released last Friday! I guess just in time to deep clean the motel for these new ones.

But what were Boris and your health officers thinking, letting another lot go free, adding to the 2,000 from early in the epidemic and the ones returning from Italy and other parts???

I see America is banning all visits from Europeans as of Friday but the UK is allowed still.

Well it's official the end of the world as we know it....even my local stores are now sold out of loo roll and sanitizer!! we have maybe less than 100 cases in all of Canada none from community spreading. I get (but don't agree with) the sanitizer and face mask etc but what is it with the loo roll stockpiling???

Maggie, it has been like that for the last two weeks here.

OH went to Aldi yesterday morning (not to buy toilet paper) at about 9.00am. The toilet paper had all gone. They open at 8.30 am :-S

I know that there will be an increase, but there are only 9 cases of Covid19 in Western Australia currently, all in Perth. Why the panic? the poor so-and-so's who NEED loo paper and hand sanitiser can't get any.

What gets to me is the selfish behaviour of some of those with symptoms and have other factors such as travel or contact with confirmed cases, who have been tested and told to self isolate until the results are known aren't doing so.

One such person decided to go to a concert in Perth. The following day her test came back positive. :-|

Plenty bog roll in Sains.......

Son in law went to Morrisons this afternoon - no toilet paper - despite them re-filling the shelves this morning.

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*****BREAKING NEWS! *****

Sadly news has just reached us saying that the first member of this group has sadly died because of the Coronavirus.

In his house they found 500 cans of assorted food, 100kg of pasta, 75kg of rice, 200 toilet rolls and 30L of hand sanitiser which he had panic bought from Aldi “just in case!”

He died after the whole lot collapsed on top of him and buried the daft twat! ??

Sylvia, my bestie and OH flew to Florida and boarded a two-week cruise yesterday. She was in two minds but decided against cancellation.

I think they may have an interesting time to put it mildly but since they're there now they may as well set to and enjoy themselves while being sensible but not worrying. Alas, she is a worrier but her OH isn't.. :-0

They will have your words of advice ringing in their ears the whole trip Sylvia :-)

well, my daughter and her family are now on board the plane to Florida, staying with son-i-l's parents, in hotels, DisneyWorld and the space centre.

Just have to keep my fingers crossed for the next 10 days now..

I had to go to the surgery this afternoon so now Stitches are out from the minor op I had 2 weeks ago. , took longer than I expected I had a student nurse under supervision do it. She was lovely, very gentle and careful but she had to give up on the last one and hand it over to Claire who is actually not a nurse but a Health something or other, she has been at the practice for years. She got the last one out eventually, it had got embedded so my arm is a bit sore now. That will wear off though soon. all the time I am in the practice though I am on edge but I think Claire washed her hands at least five times while I was there

I asked aif they knew if the pneumonia vaccine would be any good against the virus. Their opinion was that if you had had it and developed pneumonia then the illness would not be as bad as if you had not had it. Not sure they really knew though.


Doctors was quite full but there was hand gel as you went in and instead of booking in on line we had to go to reception where she asked if we had coughs or colds or fever. Before I went in we were on our own in the nurses waiting room which is not very big. When I came out OH was there with a lady and two toddlers one of whom did have a cough. He said even worse was a woman was in there for a while who coughed into her hand. He was not impressed. Neither was I. Itold him he should have gone and waited outside the small room. :-(

You have to wonder how long it can live on a can of food you buy at the shop or the fresh fruit you buy etc...at what point are we being proactive and when are we over reacting? As you say better safe than sorry use sensible precautions.

Because of my mobility problems we have shedloads of 'stuff' delivered.

This morning a paint delivery arrived.

Having tried to get a definitive answer as to how long any hard surfaced item may be contaminated with live virus the best guess is 24 hours.

That means to be overly cautious we wipe all products delivered to us. We also take in parcels for neighbours as they work, more parcels to deal with.

I am back at the GP surgery next week so it's hand sanitizer and wipes to be deployed.....I would rather be considered OTT than increase my risks...lolol

Overseas rellies are paying for pneumonia vaccines even though not on the recommended action list.

I do have a good all round medical knowledge both from personal experience and general reading but, for once, feel really uneducated re this current crisis.

Not a nice feeling

:-(

Not only has a case been confirmed in my eldest grand daughter's college, an positive case has now been confirmed at her brother's secondary school :-(

In Wilko this morning, the man in front of me asks whether there was any hand sanitiser - not if there's none on the shelf was the response.

When it came to my turn the check-out person said, 'One woman came in first thing and bought the whole box of 20.'

My immediate reaction was 'selfish' until I began to wonder whether someone may well have a compromised immune system or it could have been a teacher planning for a school trip as they are still ongoing - I know because my grandson has just got back from one.

Then there'll be a lot of unknown cases in America as many can't afford the cost of testing let alone the actual health care.

Apparently only just over 4,380 people across the US have been tested for Covid-19. and insurance companies only today announced that they would cover at least some of the cost for the testing.

If you don' have insurance, or your company doesn't have a health plan ........... then I think you have to pay the whole cost yourself