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I have copy of entry of Marriage solemnised in the parish of Thames Ditton, Surrey between Mary Ann Oades (widow) and Robert Oades Day b.1811 (Day being mmn), on 11th February 1833. Mary Ann was born in Holloway, Middx and Robert, Thames Ditton. They had 2 children Mary Ann b.1835 and Charles b.1837. In all census’ Robert only uses the surname Oades.
Is there any way to find out who Mary Ann was previously married to and were there any children from that marriage?
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Just whilst looking around
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Egham Hill, Egham, Windsor, Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Robert Oades Male 30 1811 - Mary Oades Female 35 1806 - Mary Oades Female 6 1835 Surrey, England Charles Oades Male 3 1838 Surrey, England Jane Planner Female 75 1766 Surrey, England
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Egham Hill, Egham, Windsor, Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert Oades Head Married Male 40 1811 Collector of queens taxes Kingston on Thames, Surrey, England Mary Ann Oades Wife Married Female 44 1807 - London, Middlesex, England Mary Ann Oades Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 - Egham, Surrey, England Jane Planner Aunt Unmarried Female 86 1765 House proprietor Egham, Surrey, England
Charles Oades age 13 at school in Windsor
Death notice - newspaper 17th April 1858 On the 14th inst., at the house of her nephew, Mr Robert Oades, Egham, MRs Jane Planner, in the 94th year of her age
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Transcript has Cades, looks like Oades on OPR
Surrey Marriages Thames Ditton, St Nicholas, Surrey, England
First name(s) Robert Cades Last name Day Marital status Bachelor Marriage year 1833 Marriage date 11 Feb 1833 Place Thames Ditton, St Nicholas County Surrey Country England Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann Spouse's last name Cades Spouse's condition Widow By licence or banns Banns First witness Ann Cades <<<<<<<<<<<<< ? Mother / Sister in law of Robert Second witness Thos Merser <<<<<<<<<< ? a Church official as witness on other entries Archive Surrey History Centre Archive reference 2568/1/9 Register type Marriages Year range 1813-1837 Page 116 Record set Surrey Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain
Birth Reg. Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: OADES, CHARLES - GRO Reference: 1837 D Quarter in WINDSOR UNION Volume 06 Page 205
Baptised 21.12.1837 Egham, Charles s/o Robert and Mary Ann
BAPTISM - Mary Anne Oades 28.12.1834 d/o Robert and Mary Anne
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Roberts parents married after he was born, so he was born surname Day and married using that surname
Surrey Marriages Kingston upon Thames, All Saints, Surrey, England
First name(s) Robert Last name Oades Marital status Bachelor Year 1813 Marriage date 05 Sep 1813 Place Kingston upon Thames, All Saints County Surrey Country England Spouse's first name(s) Ann Spouse's last name Day Spouse's condition Spinster By licence or banns Banns First witness Saml Tagg Second witness Ch Styles Archive Surrey History Centre Archive reference P33/1/26 Year range 1813-1837 Page 4 Record set Surrey Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Thames Ditton, Surrey, England First name(s) Robert Last name Oades Father's first name(s) Robert Father's last name Oades Birth year 1811 Mother's first name(s) Ann Baptism year 1812 Baptism date 01 Mar 1812 Place Thames Ditton County Surrey Collections from England, Great Britain
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DEATH - newspaper 7th January 1899 OADES - On the 3rd inst.,, Mary Ann Oades, widow of the late Robert Oades, of Egham, Surrey, in her 98th year
Robert had died 15th Dec. 1895 leaving over £12K
Mary Ann maybe a little older than shown on earlier census
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census High Street, Egham, Windsor, Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert Oades Head Married Male 79 1812 Living on his own means Egham, Surrey, England Mary Ann Oades Wife Married Female 89 1802 - London, Middlesex, England Mary Ann Oades Daughter Single Female 56 1835 - Egham, Surrey, England Sophia Purton Servant Single Female 23 1868 General servant Berkshire, England
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Numerous trees (47)on ancestry re Robert Oades - have looked a first page only, shows marriage to Mary Ann, but no info for her prior to the marriage.
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Once again thank you all so much for your assistance.
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I've been trying to think a little bit outside the box and I have come up with the following:
Robert and Mary Ann had a son Charles b 1837 and he had a son called Geoffrey Smyth Oades b 1877. I have found in the past that sometimes children include their mother's maiden name in their child's name, so I was wondering whether 'Smyth' could be a clue to Mary Ann's maiden name.
Looking at the info above it looks like Mary Ann was more than likely born in about 1801 rather than 1807.
Now if this is the the case, a Mary Ann Smyth married Charles Oades in 1822 in West Malling. That Charles Oades looks to be part of the Oades family of Egham and there are Trees on Ancestry that have Charles Oades marrying Mary Ann Smyth, however they do not link her to marrying Robert Oades Day they just have his wife as Mary Ann Oades. Charles died in 1830 at the age of 34 and there is a Will for this Charles who mentions his wife, Mary Ann, and a brother James; also there is a Codicil which mentions his father Alexander La Roche Oades.
So I'm thinking that Mary Ann Smyth married Charles Oades in 1822. Charles died in 1830 and she then went on to marry Robert Oades Day in 1833. Robert Oades Day's father was Robert Oades the brother of Charles Oades. Perhaps they named their son after Mary Ann's first husband who was her husband Robert's Uncle.
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Fantastic, more info to look through and check against my tree.
Many thanks,
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