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Can anybody help me find George Dalley (middle name Robert)... born c1847 St Giles, London... I can't see a birth record on Freebmd for him, nor can I find him in the 61/71 census pre his marriage.

He is with his widowed mother, Elizabeth in the 1851... here for ref:
1851 England Census
about George R Dalley
Name: George R Dalley
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Giles in The Fields
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St Giles South
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 419

(I haven't added the list as there are loads of households all merged.. )

and in 1881 after his marriage..

1881 England Census
about George R. Dally
Name: George R. Dally
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A.
Gender: Male
Where born: St Giles

Civil Parish: St Anne Soho
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 4 West St South Side
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Plumber & Painter

Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George H. Dally 5
George R. Dally 34
Louisa Dally 2
Mary E. Dally 6
Sarah A. Dally 30
Walter Dally 3


I would like to find him in 61/71, and also track his birth record so I can find his father. I know it should be listed on his marriage cert, but I would still like to find his birth record if possible.

Thanks for any input..

Possible for 1861

1861 England Census
about George Dalley
Name: George Dalley
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil Parish: St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish: London
Town: London
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St Giles South
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 425
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Dalley 41
George Dalley 14
William Wright 11 Nephew

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 168; Folio: 117; Page: 64; GSU roll: 542585.



Andy

Andy - thanks.... how could I not find that!?!

And a nephew too!

Try looking for a second marriage for his mother. He may have taken his stepfather's name on the 1871 census.

1871?

Geo Dalla
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: St Giles, London, England

Civil Parish: St Giles in The Fields
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles in the Fields
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St Giles, North
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members: Name Age
Geo Dalla 24 - occupation, painter out of work
Cathleen Hames 25
Edward Hames 29
Alfred Wolkins 21


Angela

His Birth may not have been reg as it wasnt compulsary till 1875

Possible for 1871. Image is faint, but could be Dally


1871 England Census
about Geo Dalla
Name: Geo Dalla
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: St Giles, London, England

Civil Parish: St Giles in The Fields
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles in the Fields
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St Giles, North
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members: Name Age
Geo Dalla 24
Cathleen Hames 25
Edward Hames 29
Alfred Wolkins 21

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 350; Folio: 9; Page: 11; GSU roll: 824608.

Andy

marriage
Marriages Jun 1873 (>99%)
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Dalley George Robert St. Giles 1b 829
Kent Sarah Ann St.Giles 1b 829
ROGERS John William St. Giles 1b 829
Waterfield Catharine Anne St. Giles 1b 829
WATERFIELD Catherine Anne St Giles 1b 829

death ref

Name: George Robert Dalley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 41
District: Strand (1837-1913)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 346 (click to see others on page)

Thanks for those.... I think you may have got him!!

I'd forgotten about Civil reg not being compulsory ... thanks for reminding me!

Shirley - thanks... family info is that he died in a "fall"... he was a builder.. so I am also going to be on the trail of his death cert and any inquest.. as it must have been a significant fall to kill a 41yo man... all adds to the interest!

Angela/Andy - thanks that is def him... out of work painter!!