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Sally
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20 Apr 2009 13:42 |
Please can someone help me find the marriage of John George H Backer to Louisa. John was bonr in 1866 and I have Louisa being born in 1884 - so i guess they would have married somewhere between 1900-1905. Due to the age gap this might not have been His first marriage!
Any help gratefully received
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Julie
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20 Apr 2009 13:54 |
Have you had a look here
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl _______________
Are you certain of your info about John as i can't even see a birth for him
Also how do you know that Louisa was born in 1884, do you have her surname
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Moody Blue
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20 Apr 2009 19:39 |
Is this him with his parents?
1881 England Census about John H. G. Backer Name: John H. G. Backer Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Son Father's Name: John P. Mother's Name: Emmelia F. C. Gender: Male Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: 1 Leyton Ter Leyton Rd Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 46 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John P. Backer 42 Head born Germany / Baker Emmelia F. C. Backer 38 John H. G. Backer 14 Conrad W. P. Backer 2 Frederick C. E. Backer Foni Lull 22 Jacob Pane 16 Jacob Neadd 18 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1723; Folio: 31; Page: 57; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341412.
1891 England Census about J H George Backer Name: J H George Backer Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Son Father's Name: Johann Peter Mother's Name: E C F Gender: Male Where born: Poplar, London, England Civil Parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour Town: Forest Gate County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: 74 Dames Road
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Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 84 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Johann Peter Backer 52 Borkeen Province Hessler/ Prussian Nat. British subject. E C F Backer 48 born Hofgeismer J H George Backer 24 Vanman born Poplar C W Peter Backer 12 F C E Backer 10 Mary A Weeden 17 Wilhlem Eid 23 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1336; Folio 11; Page 16; GSU roll: 6096446.
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Moody Blue
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20 Apr 2009 19:56 |
Same family but using their different christian names.
1901 England Census about George Backer Name: George Backer Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Son Father's Name: John R Mother's Name: Caroline Gender: Male Where born: Raplar, London, England Civil Parish: Tottenham Ecclesiastical parish: Hornsey St Peter County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:553 Green Lanes
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Edmonton Sub registration district: Tottenham ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 280 Household Members: Name Age John R Backer 62 Baker & Confectioner Caroline Backer 58 George Backer 34 son / Bakers pastry cook Peder Backer 22 son / bakers clerk & sho assistant Frederick Backer 20 son / baker & confectioner Edwin Mattey 22 servant/ baker Walter Lee 22 servant / baker Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1252; Folio: 116; Page: 41.
Still not married in 1901!
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Moody Blue
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20 Apr 2009 19:58 |
1911 Census
BACKER, GEORGE HEAD MARRIED M 44 BAKER AND C MANUFACTURE OF BREAD AND C MIDDLESEX POPLAR BACKER, LOUISA WIFE MARRIED 6 F 27 MIDDLESEX POPLAR BACKER, PETER FATHER WIDOWER M 72 GERMAN NATIONALIZED 50 YEARS RESIDENT BACKER, MINNIE DAUGHTER F 3 BACKER, CAROLINA DAUGHTER F 4 BACKER, GEORGE SON M 5 CROWE, LISSOA SERVANT SINGLE F 18 GENERAL SERVANT
BACKER GEORGE (RG14PN9530 RG78PN509 RD188 SD5 ED11 SN655) Address 148 BARKING ROAD EAST HAM E County Essex District West Ham Subdistrict South East Ham Enumeration District 11 Parish East Ham
Births Jun 1908 Backer Minnie Juliana W. Ham 4a 253
Births Sep 1906 Backer Carolina Louisa W. Ham 4a 303
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Moody Blue
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20 Apr 2009 20:08 |
After all that I still cant find his marriage!!
maybe a possible?
Marriages Dec 1904 Baker George Poplar 1c 935 Dawes Louisa Emma Poplar 1c 935
Only near match for Louisa's birth is this one
Births Mar 1883 Howes Louisa Emma Poplar 1c 676
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SylviaInCanada
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20 Apr 2009 21:11 |
you'd better get the birth certificate for one of the children.
That will give you Louisa's maiden name.
If that doesn't match the one that Moody Blue found, you could try searching for a marriage under the name that is on the birth certificate
there could be a mis-transcription.
sylvia
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Sally
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21 Apr 2009 13:32 |
Thanks for you help and advise everyone - i will have a look when i get home
Sally
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Thelma
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3 Jun 2009 16:46 |
Hello, I have not been able to find the marriage either , but I have the transcribed page of 1911 census which states that they (George (middle name?) born Poplar and Louisa also born Poplar ) had then been married 6 years and that he was at the time of the census aged 44 and Louisa aged 27. Also that Peter Backer, (i think this must be John P Backer) was living with them, his age is shown as 72 and was a widower. Hope this helps, Thelma
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