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Help with a marriage please

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Sally

Sally Report 20 Apr 2009 13:42

Please can someone help me find the marriage of John George H Backer to Louisa. John was bonr in 1866 and I have Louisa being born in 1884 - so i guess they would have married somewhere between 1900-1905. Due to the age gap this might not have been His first marriage!

Any help gratefully received

Julie

Julie Report 20 Apr 2009 13:54

Have you had a look here

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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Are you certain of your info about John as i can't even see a birth for him

Also how do you know that Louisa was born in 1884, do you have her surname

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 20 Apr 2009 19:39

Is this him with his parents?


1881 England Census
about John H. G. Backer
Name: John H. G. Backer
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John P.
Mother's Name: Emmelia F. C.
Gender: Male
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address: 1 Leyton Ter Leyton Rd
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John P. Backer 42 Head born Germany / Baker
Emmelia F. C. Backer 38
John H. G. Backer 14
Conrad W. P. Backer 2
Frederick C. E. Backer
Foni Lull 22
Jacob Pane 16
Jacob Neadd 18
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1723; Folio: 31; Page: 57; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341412.



1891 England Census
about J H George Backer
Name: J H George Backer
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Johann Peter
Mother's Name: E C F
Gender: Male
Where born: Poplar, London, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Forest Gate
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address: 74 Dames Road

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 84
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Johann Peter Backer 52 Borkeen Province Hessler/ Prussian Nat. British subject.
E C F Backer 48 born Hofgeismer
J H George Backer 24 Vanman born Poplar
C W Peter Backer 12
F C E Backer 10
Mary A Weeden 17
Wilhlem Eid 23
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1336; Folio 11; Page 16; GSU roll: 6096446.

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 20 Apr 2009 19:56

Same family but using their different christian names.


1901 England Census
about George Backer
Name: George Backer
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John R
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Raplar, London, England

Civil Parish: Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish: Hornsey St Peter
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:553 Green Lanes

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Edmonton
Sub registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 280
Household Members:
Name Age
John R Backer 62 Baker & Confectioner
Caroline Backer 58
George Backer 34 son / Bakers pastry cook
Peder Backer 22 son / bakers clerk & sho assistant
Frederick Backer 20 son / baker & confectioner
Edwin Mattey 22 servant/ baker
Walter Lee 22 servant / baker
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1252; Folio: 116; Page: 41.



Still not married in 1901!

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 20 Apr 2009 19:58


1911 Census

BACKER, GEORGE HEAD MARRIED M 44 BAKER AND C MANUFACTURE OF BREAD AND C MIDDLESEX POPLAR
BACKER, LOUISA WIFE MARRIED 6 F 27 MIDDLESEX POPLAR
BACKER, PETER FATHER WIDOWER M 72 GERMAN NATIONALIZED 50 YEARS RESIDENT
BACKER, MINNIE DAUGHTER F 3
BACKER, CAROLINA DAUGHTER F 4
BACKER, GEORGE SON M 5
CROWE, LISSOA SERVANT SINGLE F 18 GENERAL SERVANT

BACKER GEORGE (RG14PN9530 RG78PN509 RD188 SD5 ED11 SN655)
Address 148 BARKING ROAD EAST HAM E County Essex
District West Ham Subdistrict South East Ham
Enumeration District 11 Parish East Ham


Births Jun 1908
Backer Minnie Juliana W. Ham 4a 253

Births Sep 1906
Backer Carolina Louisa W. Ham 4a 303

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 20 Apr 2009 20:08

After all that I still cant find his marriage!!


maybe a possible?

Marriages Dec 1904
Baker George Poplar 1c 935
Dawes Louisa Emma Poplar 1c 935


Only near match for Louisa's birth is this one

Births Mar 1883
Howes Louisa Emma Poplar 1c 676

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 Apr 2009 21:11

you'd better get the birth certificate for one of the children.

That will give you Louisa's maiden name.

If that doesn't match the one that Moody Blue found, you could try searching for a marriage under the name that is on the birth certificate


there could be a mis-transcription.



sylvia

Sally

Sally Report 21 Apr 2009 13:32

Thanks for you help and advise everyone - i will have a look when i get home

Sally

Thelma

Thelma Report 3 Jun 2009 16:46

Hello, I have not been able to find the marriage either , but I have the transcribed page of 1911 census which states that they (George (middle name?) born Poplar and Louisa also born Poplar ) had then been married 6 years and that he was at the time of the census aged 44 and Louisa aged 27. Also that Peter Backer, (i think this must be John P Backer) was living with them, his age is shown as 72 and was a widower.
Hope this helps,
Thelma