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1851, 1861 census for Fryer, Sedgley

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Anthony

Anthony Report 3 Jul 2009 08:39

It turns out that there were three related Fryer families in Sedgley around this time:
Thomas c.1791 married to Hannah c.1795;
George c.1801, (probably) his brother, married to Sarah c.1784, James 1813, Thomas' eldest son, married to Elizabeth c.1821.
To complete the picture I should very much appreciate help in finding the census returns for James' family in 1851, then all three of the families for 1861.
Anthony

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 Jul 2009 08:48

1851 just posting this one as I was looking at it

Name: Thomas Fryer
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Himbleton, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Sedgley
Ecclesiastical parish: Coseley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Sedgley
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Fryer 60
Hannah Fryer 56
Thomas Fryer 23
Emma Fryer 21
Eliza Fryer 18
William Fryer 28
Sarah Ann Rollans 4

All the others listed as born Sedgley



How do you know that James married an Elizabeth?

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 3 Jul 2009 08:55

hi is this what your after
1851 census

Name James Fryer
Age 38
Estimated Year of Birth 1813
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation COAL MINER
Address Horton Street
District West Bromwich, West Bromwich South West
Parish
Administrative County Staffordshire
Birth Place Sedgley
Birth County STAFFORDSHIRE
in house
james head 38
mary wife 36
HO 107 / 2025

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 Jul 2009 08:57

Hi Polly/Poppet

That is the 1851 census I was looking at so asked the question about the wife being Elizabeth as not found another possible


Maureen

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 Jul 2009 08:59

1861 !!! Ceertain that I have looked at this one before

Name: James Fryer
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Sedgley, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Sedgley
Ecclesiastical parish: Coseley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: coal miner

Condition as to marriage: widow

Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Sedgley
ED, institution, or vessel: 60
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
James Fryer 44
William Fryer 21
Thomas Fryer 19
Betsey Fryer 17
Mary A Fryer 12
James Fryer 10

See if I can find this one in 1851


All born Sedgley

Anthony

Anthony Report 3 Jul 2009 09:03

That is Thomas in 1851 o.k.
James is listed with Elizabeth as his wife in the 1841 census which I have. There may also have been an earlier marriage to a Mary with a daughter Emma from the IGI files, but I am not too sure about this.
George seems to have had a previous marriage also. Mortality in birthing seems to have been a major danger at that time so it is possible that James may have lost Elizabeth and remarried.
Anthony

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 Jul 2009 09:05

1851 !!

Name: Thomas Pryer
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Sedgley, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Sedgley
Ecclesiastical parish: Coseley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Sedgley
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
James Pryer 34
Elizabeth Pryer 34
William Pryer 11
Thomas Pryer 9
Elizabeth Pryer 7
Mary Ann Pryer 1

All born Sedgley

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 Jul 2009 09:09

Just wondering if the the Sarah Ann Rollans on the 1851 is on 1861 as Sarah A Roylands ?

Anthony

Anthony Report 3 Jul 2009 09:32

A mis-spelling in 1851!!!

That is certainly the family of Thomas.
Can I ask, did you find Thomas c.1791 or George c.1801 (or their descendants, if they had passed on) in the 1861 census?

Anthony