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Tom John Ruttley

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Lynda

Lynda Report 25 Apr 2010 08:40

I am having difficulty finding ancestors for my Great GrandfatherTom John Ruttleyborn 1853 Clifton Bristol Gloucestershire who married my G.G.M Isabella Giles 31/51886
He also married SusanRiddle in 1881 Tiverton Devon but she died.All this info was from helpers on G.R and all I know is that Tom's father's name was James. I would like to find siblings and any further generations.Perhaps they might be in Devon.Would appreciate any info

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Apr 2010 08:47

Well, here is his birth which will give you his parents - struggling with census before 1881 though.

Births Mar 1853 (>99%)
Ruttley Tom John Clifton 6a 108

Vera

Vera Report 25 Apr 2010 08:48

Hi Lynda,
For reference...

1861
Thomas Rutley
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol

Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: St Philip and Jacob
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 94
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Rutley 38
Rebecca Rutley 44
Rebecca Jones 20
Thomas Rutley 8
Charles Budd 30


Regards Vera

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Apr 2010 08:50

Might be him - but not much use!! Did you already have this?

1861 England Census

Name: Thomas Rutley
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol

Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: St Philip and Jacob

Thomas Rutley 38
Rebecca Rutley 44
Rebecca Jones 20
Thomas Rutley 8
Charles Budd 30

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Apr 2010 08:53

Just in case:

1851 England Census

Name: James Ruttley
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Cullompton, Devon, England

Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: St Philip and Jacob

James Ruttley 26
Ann Ruttley 24
Anna Ruttley 8 Mo
Robert Potter 12

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Apr 2010 08:58

You do need his birth cert really I think.
Not seeing him 1871, maybe Jonesey or Vera will have more luck!
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Apr 2010 09:03

If 1871 is correct sadly Anna died I think:

Deaths Dec 1853 (>99%)
Ruttley Anna Clifton 6a 84

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Apr 2010 09:22

Nice detective work there Jonesey! I do think the James & Ann found above are likely to be his parents but if it were me I'd still get that birth cert.
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Apr 2010 09:23

You don't ask for this, but while we're here:

1911

RUTTLEY, Tom John Head Married M 58 1853 Tailor And Auxilliary And Postman Glos Bristol VIEW
RUTTLEY, Isabella Sarah Ann Wife Married 24 years F 45 1866 Stepney London E VIEW
RUTTLEY, Rosalind Daughter Single F 18 1893 Machinist Peckham London S E VIEW
RUTTLEY, Steller Daughter Single F 15 1896 Domestic Servant Peckham London S E VIEW
RUTTLEY, Christopher Son M 13 1898 School Boy Peckham London S E VIEW


Registration District:
Camberwell Sub District:
Peckham South Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Camberwell

Address:
224 Albert Road Peckham S E County:
London

Lynda

Lynda Report 25 Apr 2010 11:12

Hi thank you all for helping, you can see the problem i'm having .My second cousin told me tom Ruttley was born in cullompton Devon in 1854 but everything else Ive found out about him has him born in CliftonBristol in 1853.Along with the fact that he married his first wife Susan Riddle in Devon ,and his father's name wasJames , I thought maybe his family was from Cullompton. I just found the census entry for 1851 and it's interesting to note that tom's first daughter was also named anna.Vera's reference to the nephew sounds hopeful.I knew about the 1911 census which is correct .my grandmother is Stella.Apparently they appear as Rattley in 1901.Looks like you've cracked it for me .You are all wonderful. THANK YOU

Lynda

Lynda Report 25 Apr 2010 13:45

Did some arithmetic and it looks like Hannah bornin1856 on 1861 census became Anna by 1881 census So Anna 8 months in1851 census must have died in 1853. Did anyone find them on the 1871 census , I am having no luck

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Apr 2010 16:53

Hannah?? (Birthplace a bit different, 1861 id Greenwich)


1871 England Census

Name: Hannah Ratley
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Deptford, Kent, England
Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Deptford
Town: Deptford
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford

Jane Brimfield 20
Mabel Brimfield 6 months
Hannah Ratley 15

Lynda

Lynda Report 25 Apr 2010 23:21

Thanks ,that's interesting , I'll look into that because in in 1891 she was also a domestic servant along with her sister ? Elizabeth.from the 1881 census. I think its a bit far fetched for Ann to have given birth at 47.I'm thinking Hanna(Anna) is the unmarried mother