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William Howard c1842, Northamptonshire not on cens

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Sheffield Lad

Sheffield Lad Report 16 Jan 2007 13:40

My research into my family name line ends at my GG Grandfather William Howard c1842, Northamptonshire. Can anyone help? He is listed on the 1871 census but I cannot find him in 1851 and 61. Also I haven't got a birth certificate for him as I can find no certain reference on FreeBMD. He was living in Sheffield in 1871 and gave his birthplace as Crawford (Cranford?), Northamptonshire. He was a shoemaker and was married to Emma Wright in 1863 in Northampton. His fathers name was John Howard a labourer. The address he gave on the marriage certificate was Scarletwell St, Northampton. He died in Sheffield in 1879. That is everthing I have on him. All help and suggestions welcome. Thanks, John

Fiona

Fiona Report 16 Jan 2007 13:53

I think this might be him in 1861, says Son-in-law but think it should be step son. William in 18 on image, occ Bootmaker. 1861 Name: William Howard Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Son-in-law Gender: Male Where born: Kettering, Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Burton Latimer County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Kettering Sub-registration district: Kettering ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 228 Household Members: Name Age Emma Carsley 11 James Carsley 35 James Carsley 8 Mary A Carsley 13 Bertram Howard 5 Christopher Howard 3 Harriett Howard 1 John Howard 21 Lucy Howard 24 William Howard 10 Emma Carsley abt 1850 Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Burton Latimer Northamptonshire James Carsley abt 1826 Cranford, Northamptonshire, England Head Burton Latimer Northamptonshire James Carsley abt 1853 Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England Son Burton Latimer Northamptonshire Mary A Carsley abt 1848 Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Burton Latimer Northamptonshire Bertram Howard abt 1856 Cranford, Northamptonshire, England Grand Dau In Law (Daughter) Burton Latimer Northamptonshire Christopher Howard abt 1858 Cranford, Northamptonshire, England Grandson-in-law Burton Latimer Northamptonshire Harriett Howard abt 1860 Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England Grand Daur In Law Burton Latimer Northamptonshire John Howard abt 1840 Cranford, Northamptonshire, England Son-in-law Burton Latimer Northamptonshire Lucy Howard abt 1837 Cranford, Northamptonshire, England Daughter-in-law Burton Latimer Northamptonshire William Howard abt 1851 Kettering, Northamptonshire, England Son-in-law Burton Latimer Northamptonshire

Fiona

Fiona Report 16 Jan 2007 14:06

This looks like it might be the marriage. Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1846 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ............>Cursley James Kettering 15 417 Eagle Jane Kettering 15 417 Foster Robert Kettering 15 417 ...............>Howard Sarah Kettering 15 417 Payne Hannah Kettering 15 417 Robinson John Kettering 15 417

Fiona

Fiona Report 16 Jan 2007 14:10

This looks like 1851. 1851 Name: Sarah Cussly Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1815 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: James Gender: Female Where born: Cranford, Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Burton Latimer County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Kettering Sub-registration district: Kettering ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 172 Household Members: Name Age Ebenzer Cussly 6 Emma Cussly 8 Mo James Cussly 26 Luz Cussly 14 Mary Ann Cussly 3 Sarah Cussly 36 William Cussly 9 Ebenzer Cussly abt 1845 Burton Latr, Northamptonshire, England Son Burton Latimer Northamptonshire Emma Cussly abt 1850 Burton Latr, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Burton Latimer Northamptonshire James Cussly abt 1825 Cranford, Northamptonshire, England Head Burton Latimer Northamptonshire Luz Cussly abt 1837 Cranford, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Burton Latimer Northamptonshire (Lucy) Mary Ann Cussly abt 1848 Burton Latr, Northamptonshire, England Son Burton Latimer Northamptonshire Sarah Cussly abt 1815 Cranford, Northamptonshire, England Wife Burton Latimer Northamptonshire William Cussly abt 1842 Cranford, Northamptonshire, England Son Burton Latimer Northamptonshire

Fiona

Fiona Report 16 Jan 2007 14:18

1841 a bonus, looks like Sarah may have been a single mother?? here she is with Lucy, John and what looks like her parents?? 1841. Allice Howard abt 1789 Northamptonshire, England St John Cranford Northamptonshire John Howard abt 1839 Northamptonshire, England St John Cranford Northamptonshire Lucy Howard abt 1837 Northamptonshire, England St John Cranford Northamptonshire Sarah Howard abt 1819 Northamptonshire, England St John Cranford Northamptonshire Wm Howard abt 1789 Northamptonshire, England St John Cranford Northamptonshire Name: Sarah Howard Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1819 Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: St John Cranford Hundred: Huxloe County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Source information: HO107/803/9 Registration district: Kettering Sub-registration district: Kettering ED, institution, or vessel: 8A Folio: 4 Page: 3

Sheffield Lad

Sheffield Lad Report 16 Jan 2007 14:18

Fiona, At last a breakthrough! That looks very promising, thank you very much Can you work out what it says above son/daug on the 1851 census? John.

Fiona

Fiona Report 16 Jan 2007 14:20

It looks like 'nat &' whatever that means??? Fiona.

Heather

Heather Report 16 Jan 2007 14:23

Looks like it says 'natural' to me, a term usually used for illegitimate kids! May be the enumerator queried how a 26 year old head could have a 14 year old kiddie? BTW freebmd is not complete, you can always check on ancestry full bmd index though it is not name searchable with the same ease as the brilliant freebmd

Sheffield Lad

Sheffield Lad Report 16 Jan 2007 14:31

On his marriage cert, his father is listed as John Howard, labourer. Why would his father be called Howard if that was his mothers name unless they were married? Could he just be working away from home in 1841? John.

Fiona

Fiona Report 16 Jan 2007 14:41

It is possible his father could be working away from home. You would need one of the childrens birth certificate to see if a father is mentioned. Fiona.

Fiona

Fiona Report 16 Jan 2007 14:42

In 1881 Sarah's daughter Lucy is down as the wife of James Cursley??? Name: Lucy Howard Cursley Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: James Gender: Female Where born: Cranford St John, Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Burton Latimer County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Croxens Yard Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Kettering Sub-registration district: Kettering ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Arthur H. Cursley 4 Daniel H. Cursley 10 Frederick H. Cursley 12 James Cursley 55 James Cursley 28 Lucy Howard Cursley 44 Sarah Howard Cursley 18 Earnest Howard 2 Frank Howard

Sheffield Lad

Sheffield Lad Report 16 Jan 2007 14:47

Fiona, I will investigate things further. I have been looking at this for about a month and have full access to Ancestry etc. but couldn't work things out. You did it in less than 10 minutes, what a star! Many thanks again. John Just seen the above post. Strange family indeed??