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Obed Charles Hawkes - seeking anybody who may be or has researched this Hawkes family. Am particually interested to find out what happened to wife of OC Hawkes, namely Elizabeth Wells b. 1853 in Middlesex England.
Would love to hear from anyone.
Take care,
Jenni
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1881
Obed.C. HAWKES Head M Male 31 Milton, Oxford, England Looking Glass Mfr Gen Merchant Emplg 207 Men 20 Boys & 40 Women
Elizabeth HAWKES Wife M Female 28 London, Middlesex, England
John HAWKES Son Male 8 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Lilly E. HAWKES Daur Female 6 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Frederick C. HAWKES Son Male 5 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar
Florence M. HAWKES Daur Female 3 Birmingham, Warwick, England
Magdelene HAWKES Daur Female 2 Birmingham, Warwick, England
George HAWKES Son Male 6 m Birmingham, Warwick, England
Elizabeth FLOWERS Serv U Female 25 Heathfield, Gloucester, England Cook (D)
Laina HUMPHREYS Serv U Female 16 Old Lenton, Nottingham, England Housemaid
Elizabeth CLARKE Serv U Female 19 Hatton, Warwick, England Nurse (D)
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Source Information:
Dwelling (Park Vale) Park Road
Census Place Edgbaston, Warwick, England
Family History Library Film 1341707
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2954 / 105
Page Number 30
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What about this?
Births Jun 1849 (>99%)
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HAWKES Obed Chip.g Norton 16 52
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Hi Jenni;
1891 England Census
about Obed C Hawkes
Name: Obed C Hawkes
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Milton, Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Edgbaston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: widow
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub registration district: Edgbaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Obed C Hawkes 40
Sarah M Grantham 28 servant
Jane E Grantham 26 servant
dee x
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I have pm'd Jenni about these replies and the mail has been opened but no response on here as yet. Hope she finds the info helpful.
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Many thanks for info, apologies for taking so long to reply.
Quentin Hawkes the friend I am helping says the info ties in but was wondering what happened to Elizabeth Hawkes (nee Wells) ?
His Granny told him once that she had dissapeared or remarried?
Take care,
Jenni
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Just wondering.......where were the children on the 1891 census? The boys may have been employed but two of the girls would only have been aged 12 and 13??
I wonder if she left him and took the children with her??
Here is the marriage and death of Obed but there are too many Elizabeth Hawkes deaths to look at - she could have been anywhere.
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Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%)
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Hawkes Obed Birmingham 6d 212
Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
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Deaths Mar 1929 (>99%)
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Hawkes Obed C 79 Birmingham S. 6d 275
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Here's the children in 1891;
1891 England Census
about Florence Hawkes
Name: Florence Hawkes
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham
Civil Parish: Littleham
Ecclesiastical parish: Littleham
Town: Exmouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Registration district: St Thomas
Sub registration district: Exmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Cadman 50
Eliza Cadman 46 (nee Hawkes)
Alice M Cadman 10
John Hawkes 18
Frederick C Hawkes 15
Renie Hawkes 16
Florence Hawkes 13
Magdaline Hawkes 11
George Hawkes 10
Henry Hawkes 9
Frances Rawle 27
Marriages Mar 1876
Cadman Joseph Pontefract 9c 140
Hawkes Eliza Pontefract 9c 140
Dee x
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So, am I getting this right...........
Henry is born about 1882 and by 1891 the children are living with Aunt Eliza and Uncle Joseph and Obed is living alone with 2 servants?
I wonder if Elizabeth died in childbirth and Obed put the chldren with his sister?
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Hi,
She could have died, unfortunately it is such a popular name and she could have died anywhere in Warwickshire, on the otherhand Jenni's friend has been given the impression that she "disappeared or remarried", if that were correct I would have thought she would have taken the younger children, but it's a possibility that can't be ruled out, yet!!!
Dee x
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Many thanks for info, apologies for taking so long to reply.
Quentin Hawkes the friend I am helping says "just a reply to one of the threads where it was queried "where were the children in the 1891 census". I have traced them all in that they were staying with an Aunt Eliza Cadman (married sister of Obed) in Exmore. whether this was a permanent arrangement after the Mother's departure or some temporary holiday arrangement I quess we will never know. It still however does not in any way enlighten us on Elizabeth's fate. She however never had any further contact with any of the children to the best of our knowledge.
Regards Q
Take care,
Jenni
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Hmm. Sounds a bit odd doesn't it? There are too many possible scenarios to contemplate :
death?
desertion?
mental/health breakdown?
What we need is a descendant of the family who knows all about the story, which is where we began with Jenni's original request. Full circle.
ps. Jenni, have you tried the search box above for any other possible links on this site?
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