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On Kathleen's arrival in New York in 1947 she gives name of nearest relative as brother J. McColgan, CID Hq's. Jerusalem. She is heading to Darien, Connecticutt to join friend Mrs. Jan Vink, Nolen Lane, Darien.

Kathleen Mccolgan

in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
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Name: Kathleen Mccolgan
[Belenda Mary Mccolgan]
Arrival Date: 11 Nov 1947
Birth Date: abt 1914
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: Bradford
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Queen Mary
Search Ship Database: Search for the Queen Mary in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

On the image for the Tank Corps enlistment, all the men on the page have previous Regt Nos which are consecutive and in the final column headed "Remarks Regt to Last Posted" all except Patrick have a ref to the Dragoon Guards. I wonder if they all enlisted in the Dragoons and that regt became the Tank Corps?

This looks like Patrick's WW1 medal card. He wasn't awarded any of the 3 usual medals (Victory, British & Star) but was awarded the GS medal & clasp Iraq. He applied for a replacement medal on 3/07/1925. The record and image is on Ancestry and should be available to download from the National Archives:


Name:Patrick McColgan
Regiment or Corps:7th Dragoon Guards (The Princess Royal's)
Regimental Number:D/35618, 393335

The shipping lists are from Ancestry, the military info on Patrick is on Find My Past. (I haven't checked but the information might also be on Familysearch.org)

Various shipping lists for Kathleen:

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Kathleen Mccolgan
Gender: Female
Age: 38
Birth Date: abt 1914
Departure Date: 11 Nov 1952
Port of Departure: Avonmouth, England
Destination Port: Kingston, Jamaica
Ship Name: Cavina
Shipping line: Elders and Fyffes Limitetd
Official Number: 147896 Master: T H Bull
Occ: Writer
Last address in UK: 8 Sloane Street, London SW1.
Country of intended permanent residence: Jamaica
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New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Kathleen Mccolgan
Arrival Date: 11 Nov 1947
Birth Date: abt 1914
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: Bradford
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Queen Mary
Occ: Journalist
Able to speak: English, Spanish, German
Place of Birth: Bradford, England
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Departing passenger list on Find My Past gives UK address:

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960

First name(s) KATHLEEN
Last name MCCOGLAN
Gender Female
Age 33
Birth year 1914
Occupation JOURNALIST
Departure year 1947
Departure day 6
Departure month 11
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port NEW YORK
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name QUEEN MARY
Ship official number 164282
Ship master's first name C G
Ship master's last name ILLINGWORTH
Shipping line CUNARD WHITE STAR LIMITED
Last UK Address: 36 Devonshire Hill, London NW<<<<<<

AustinQ,
Sadly seems no children for Gerald and Mabel.

But that is William John, coming back from Aden and then off to the West Indies, as the address in Richmond is correct. Is there anything earlier for him?

And that is Patrick as the father's address in Bradford is correct. Seems he had a previous service number so perhaps even an earlier posting.

Their sister Kathleen (b 1914) also went to Canada for a while I believe.

Are you getting all this from Genes Reunited as I cannot see it anywhere? I assume you must use various other sources? But thank you for all this information.

Could be Patrick- lying about his age?

First name(s) Patrick
Last name McColgan
Age 19
Birth year 1901
Service number 393335
Regiment Royal Tank Corps
Attestation year 1920
Enlistment date 5 Jan 1920
Birth place: Cupar, Fife , Scotland
Tank corps number 393335
Previous service number 35618
Record set Royal Tank Corps Enlistment Records, 1919-1934

Father: William McColgan of 33 Sloane Street, Bradford, Yorks

John Anthony....Would this be William Ts family Iskaheen....

McColgan William Head RC R&W 57 Farmer Donegal
McColgan Catherine Wife RC R&W 57 -------
McColgan Edward Son RC R&W 26 Farmer Not Mar
McColgan Hugh Son RC R&W 24 Farmer Not Mar
McColgan J. James Son RC R&W 22 Carpenter Not Mar
McColgan M. Eliza Dau RC R&W 17 ------- Not Mar


If so have you gone further back....?

Catherine was nee Arbuckle....

For Reference:

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: William John McColgan
Birth Date: abt 1913
Age: 40
Port of Departure: Beira, Mozambique
Arrival Date: 17 Aug 1953
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ship Name: Kenya
Shipping line: British India Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 184468
Proposed address in UK: 1 Wilton Park, Richmond, Surrey
Occupation: Court Official
Last Permanent residence: Aden
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UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: William Mccolgan
Gender: Male
Age: 42
Birth Date: abt 1911
Departure Date: 30 Dec 1953
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Trinidad
Ship Name: Colombie
Shipping line: Cie Gle Transatlantique
Last Address in Uk: 1 Wilton Court, Richmond Surrey
Occupation: Colonial Office
Intended residence: Trinidad

I don't see any births in England or Wales from Gerald/ Mabel marriage.

Patrick is proving harder to trace- his middle name was Hugh, birth registered Cupar, Fife in 1904.

I'll take another look tomorrow

Thank you so much, Eringobragh, Potty and AustinQ for all the information, it is quite amazing to see what can be found if you know where to look. I have been following this thread avidly over the last few days.

I had heard from my mother that Gerald lived in Putney at one time but did not know of his marriage (or possible divorce). Can you tell me, is there evidence of any children in any of the records as it would be wonderful to find some cousins? I also never knew that he had lived in St Stevens Gardens, Twickenham, which was just a mile or so from where we lived then, although he died when I was 5. Mabel, his ex wife, also seems to have moved to Twickenham when she remarried. Seems incredible.

It is quite possible that Gerald went to Palestine as my father William John (b 9.11.1909 Woolwich) was there later in the Palestine police. My father was I believe also in India at some point and north Africa, married in Tripoli in 1949 to Florence Nora Parkes. Does anyone know how to trace service records for police in the colonies?

I came across John Anthony's thread in Nov this year and it has been quite an education on our family. Thank you all.

My posting of today. The date Kathleen contacted me was 2015 not 2011

To/ Eringobragh, Potty, AustinQ,

Thank you all for the information you've provided and for bothering to provide it . I was contacted at the beginning of November 2011 by a granddaughter of William T, daughter of William John (b 1909) and she is now very interested in what we have learned and can learn about her family.

Since I started looking at William T I've been able to get hold of his marriage certificate-which then gave me his wife's name/maiden name-his army record and of course the censuses of 1901 and 1911. I was eventually able to trace the birth of a daughter Kathleen in Yorkshire in 1914 and from her birth certificate found that he had joined the Railway Police after leaving the army.

His granddaughter (also Kathleen) is trying to find our anything she can about her father William J, her Uncles Gerald and Patrick and maybe her Aunt Kathleen although we do know a little about her. Patrick is proving elusive for now.

So,for Kathleen's sake if you are able to give any more information on any of these it would be greatly appreciated. On which subject, can anyone advise how to trace service in the Palestinian or Indian Police Services ?

At least she now knows a bit about the other branches of her family ie William Ts brothers( Edward and John James,) descendants. Hugh seems to have left little trace.
Again, thank you all for what you have already told us.

GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924) Transcription

First name(s) GERALD
Last name MCCOLGAN
Year range 1902
Place CUPAR
Country SCOTLAND
Regiment Royal Artillery
Record source GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)
Volume 1436
Page 32
Record set British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005
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And birth was registered in Scotland:

1902 MCCOLGAN GERALD EDWARD O Male CUPAR /FIFE 420/00 0062
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I'm wondering if Gerald and Mabel divorced- if it's the correct Mabel she appears to be living alone on the 1939 register- followed by a marriage in 1940.

I think this is Gerald living alone on the 1939 register (it fits with the address on the London Electoral register):

McColgan Household Wandsworth, London, England
8A Kenilworth Court
~??? McColgan 1901
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And this is Mabel (her later married name also registered):

Coupland (McColgan) Household Twickenham M.B., Middlesex, England
Mabel Coupland (McColgan) 1903

John Anthony...If you have his Service Records check the details of family out on that..Given I have listed his date of Birth I must have gotten it from them...Did I not send you it...??

John Anthony...I will have a check back and verify the info I gave you last October...This may help but not where I originally got it....will have to delve a little deeper..!!




Gerald E On Mccolgan

England and Wales Census, 1911

Name Gerald E On Mccolgan
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County London
Parish St Mary Newington
Sub-District Newington South
Registration District Southwark
Gender Male
Age 8
Birthplace Cupas, Fife
Record Type Household

Possible marriage for Gerald:

Name:Gerald A E O McColgan
Spouse Surname:Townsend
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1929
Registration district:St Giles
Inferred County:Middlesex
Volume Number:1b
Page Number:1446


Name:Mabel Townsend
Spouse Surname:Mccolgan
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1929
Registration district:St Giles
Inferred County:Middlesex
Volume Number:1b
Page Number:1446

1933 to 1935 living 108 Kenilworth Court Putney with a Josephine Mabel McColgan:


Name:Gerald Edward McColgan
Year:1934
County or Borough:Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency:Putney and Streatham
Street address:108 Kenilworth Court

Possible for him in 1960 - address is actually 7St Stephen's Gardens, Twickenham; 5 others at same address, but no other McColgans:


Name:
Gerald E McColgan

Year:1960
County or Borough:Twickenham
Ward or Division/Constituency:Twickenham East
Street address:7 The Lodge
Reference Number:MR/PER/C/1060


There are other Electoral Roll entries for him. Will check them out for more info.

This could be him coming back to England, but the age is a couple of years out: last place of residence: Palestine; Occupation: Independent; Address in UK: 15 Buckingham Palace Rd


Name:Gerald McColgan
Birth Date:abt 1898
Age:26
Port of Departure:Yokohama, Japan
Arrival Date:16 Dec 1924
Port of Arrival:London, England
Ports of Voyage:Plymouth
Ship Name:Malwa
Shipping line:Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number:127543

Could this be Gerald? listed as a member of the British Gendarmerie, going to Palestine; last UK address: RAF Halton.


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name:Mr G E O McColgan
Gender:Male
Age:22
Birth Date:abt 1901
Departure Date:5 Jun 1923
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England
Destination Port:Port Said, Egypt
Ship Name:London
Shipping line:City Line
Official Number:124162
Master:Sir Jas R Rac