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Hi, I am looking for the birth certificate of my gread grandfather, leslie Charles harry or henry valentin. Born Woolwich 25th april either 1881 0r 1882, I have searched for over fifteen years and researchers have come up with nothing. On his army records he lived at 70 pavilion terrace, albert road Woolwich. No trace of this on the cencus. If anyone could help, I would be eternally grateful as have hit a brick wall again,,,,,,,

thank you

serena valentine

ps I have his marriage certificate, and details of his children but no birth . apparently he was born in Woolwich :-S thank you so much

Did his age on marriage cert match with his age on death cert?

well Woolwich is an Army town with the barracks still there . Remember the poor lad lad Rigby who was killed there

I am from the area and know that folks shown on the census were only living there but not necessarily where born there

my own granny married a squaddy from there but he was born in Germany!!

so is your grt grandad VALENTINE or VALENTIN you have given two spellings

who did he marry??

is this him?
Name: Leslie C H Valentine
Birth Date: abt 1882
Date of Registration: Jun 1961
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5d
Page: 666

so on his marriage cert who did he name as his dad?

Probate - must be him Shirley:

Name: Leslie Charles Marry Valentine
Probate Date: 18 May 1961
Death Date: 17 Apr 1961
Death Place: London, England
Registry: London, England

Address 48 Leigham Vale Streatham

In view of above, just put this to one side, just in case. It's actually incorrect, she is in a nearby street, but you never know:

Name: Jessie Agnes Valentine
Year: 1900
County or Borough: Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Wandsworth
Street address: 6 Leigham vale, Streatham

Did his marriage cert. list his father and occupation? Who were the witnesses?

Rose

My grandfathers marriage and death cert matched but he was actually born 3 years earlier

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
29 Belle Alley Mile Town Sheerness, Sheerness, Kent, England

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Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Harry Valentine Head Married Male 30 1881 Woolwich Kent Navy Seaman Transcription
Emily Valentine Wife Married Female 25 1886 Eccles Ayleston - Transcription
Mahala Valentine Daughter - Female 3 1908 Sheerness Kent School Transcription
Barbara Valentine Daughter - Female 2 1909 Sheerness Kent - Transcription
Frederick Valentine Son - Male 1 1910 Sheerness Kent

Just putting this here while I look, both William and father William were in the army, I am not seeing William and Annie in 1881...just wondering if stationed elsewhere whether Leslie could have been born elsewhere also?

name: Annie Murrell
Spouse: William Valentine ( in Barracks ) Corporal Royal artillery
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Mar 1876
Parish: St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: John Murrell
Spouse Father: William Valentine (( Sergeant RA)
Register Type: Parish Register

This is that couple in 1881 so can probably be discounted?

Name: William Valentine
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Annie Valentine
Gender: Male
Where born: London Tower, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: York St Lawrence
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 26 Melbourne St
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Sergt Royal Artillery
Registration district: York
Sub registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4725
Folio: 50
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
William Valentine 41
Annie Valentine 37
Amy Murrell 17

Is this his Medal Card?

Name: Leslie Henry Valentine
Regiment or Corps: London Regiment
Regimental Number: 3635

Discharged 24.8.16
14th London Regiment
Enlisted 9.11.14


Probably rule this one out as b1897

Service record gives this address
8 Chillerton Rd, Tooting Bec, S W

How do you know this is the right service record ? Does mention 70 Pavilion Terrace

First name(s) HENRY
Last name VALENTINE
Birth year 1882
Birth parish S WOOLWICH
Birth town S WOOLWICH
Birth county KENT
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 6557
Rank -
Regiment -
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1897
Attestation Day 20
Attestation Month 1
Attestation age years 15
Attestation age months 9
Attestation Corps 4TH BATTALION ESSEX REGIMENT
Attestation service number 6557
Series WO96 militia service records 1806-1915
Box 781
Box Record Number 132
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915


Signed it as Henry Vallenten

??

Marriages Mar 1907 (>99%)
VALLENTINE Leslie Charles H Medway 2a 1022



Elizabeth Smith or Emily Durling

Must have married Emily Durling.

Is he the Harry Valentine in Sheppey b c1881 in 1911?

Rose

think that is right, that he married Emily Durling.
There is a leslie charles henry valentine in a lot of the London Census.
beginning in 1918 living with a Emily valentine at 55, Borrett Rd, Southwalk.

if this is the right one in the 1911 census he is down as Harry
and is a royal navy seaman. born in Woolwich

Really need some feedback of details from the marriage cert such as name of father & his occupation and name of witnesses etc